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by mundasingh123 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:08 am
In the last few years, the number of convicted criminals given community service sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have risen dramatically.

A -sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have
B - sentences, performing specific jobs that benefit the public while being allowed to remain unconfined, have
C - sentences, performing specific jobs beneficial to the public while they are allowed to remain unconfined, have
D - sentences which allow them to remain unconfined in their performing of specific jobs beneficial to the public has
E - sentences allowing them to remain unconfined while performing specific jobs that benefit the public has
Q1) Could they in (A) refer to sentences
why is D wrong ? what is wrong with "in their performing " in D ?
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by garima99 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:31 am
mundasingh123 wrote:In the last few years, the number of convicted criminals given community service sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have risen dramatically.

A -sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have
B - sentences, performing specific jobs that benefit the public while being allowed to remain unconfined, have
C - sentences, performing specific jobs beneficial to the public while they are allowed to remain unconfined, have
D - sentences which allow them to remain unconfined in their performing of specific jobs beneficial to the public has
E - sentences allowing them to remain unconfined while performing specific jobs that benefit the public has
Q1) Could they in (A) refer to sentences
why is D wrong ? what is wrong with "in their performing " in D ?
D is passive..avoid passive voice in GMAT
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by prashant.mishra » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:49 am
Yes.. Besides that, another problem in D is that it uses "which" inappropriately. In GMAT "which" usually is preceded by a comma unless "which" is a part of prepositional phrases (such as at which, in which etc.) In this case, "that" would have been preferred over "which". Therefore, sentences that allow... would have been correct in my opinion.
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mundasingh123 wrote:In the last few years, the number of convicted criminals given community service sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have risen dramatically.

A -sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have
B - sentences, performing specific jobs that benefit the public while being allowed to remain unconfined, have
C - sentences, performing specific jobs beneficial to the public while they are allowed to remain unconfined, have
D - sentences which allow them to remain unconfined in their performing of specific jobs beneficial to the public has
E - sentences allowing them to remain unconfined while performing specific jobs that benefit the public has
Q1) Could they in (A) refer to sentences
why is D wrong ? what is wrong with "in their performing " in D ?
D is passive..avoid passive voice in GMAT
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:56 am
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mundasingh123 wrote:In the last few years, the number of convicted criminals given community service sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have risen dramatically.

A -sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have
B - sentences, performing specific jobs that benefit the public while being allowed to remain unconfined, have
C - sentences, performing specific jobs beneficial to the public while they are allowed to remain unconfined, have
D - sentences which allow them to remain unconfined in their performing of specific jobs beneficial to the public has
E - sentences allowing them to remain unconfined while performing specific jobs that benefit the public has
Q1) Could they in (A) refer to sentences
why is D wrong ? what is wrong with "in their performing " in D ?
D is passive..avoid passive voice in GMAT
Thats not a very good reason
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:58 am
prashant.mishra wrote:Yes.. Besides that, another problem in D is that it uses "which" inappropriately. In GMAT "which" usually is preceded by a comma unless "which" is a part of prepositional phrases (such as at which, in which etc.) In this case, "that" would have been preferred over "which". Therefore, sentences that allow... would have been correct in my opinion.
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mundasingh123 wrote:In the last few years, the number of convicted criminals given community service sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have risen dramatically.

A -sentences, which allow the criminals to remain unconfined while they perform specific jobs benefiting the public, have
B - sentences, performing specific jobs that benefit the public while being allowed to remain unconfined, have
C - sentences, performing specific jobs beneficial to the public while they are allowed to remain unconfined, have
D - sentences which allow them to remain unconfined in their performing of specific jobs beneficial to the public has
E - sentences allowing them to remain unconfined while performing specific jobs that benefit the public has
Q1) Could they in (A) refer to sentences
why is D wrong ? what is wrong with "in their performing " in D ?
D is passive..avoid passive voice in GMAT
the gmat doesn't test punctuation . need an expert to confirm on this . Please can some expert judge this .
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by sunnyjohn » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:13 am
GMAT doesn't throw a question which can be solved only on the basis of punctuation. But GMAT doesn't test punctuation is not entirely correct. COMMA is very important punctuation.

anyway D has a clear meaning flaw.

D - sentences which allow them to remain unconfined in their performing of specific jobs beneficial to the public has

sentences which allow them to remain unconfined in X..

X = their performing of specific jobs beneficial to the public

Now I have following points to reject this-
1) "allow them to remain unconfined in their performing" looks unusual.
2) their could refer to "sentences" or "criminals"..!
3) which clause would be better if it is separated from main clause by a comma.
4) I do not see any big problem in option E.

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by mundasingh123 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:16 am
sunnyjohn wrote:GMAT doesn't throw a question which can be solved only on the basis of punctuation. But GMAT doesn't test punctuation is not entirely correct. COMMA is very important punctuation.

anyway D has a clear meaning flaw.

D - sentences which allow them to remain unconfined in their performing of specific jobs beneficial to the public has

sentences which allow them to remain unconfined in X..

X = their performing of specific jobs beneficial to the public

Now I have following points to reject this-
1) "allow them to remain unconfined in their performing" looks unusual.
2) their could refer to "sentences" or "criminals"..!
3) which clause would be better if it is separated from main clause by a comma.
4) I do not see any big problem in option E.

Hope it helps.
Them is present in option E as well .
Their in D refers to what is referred to by them
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by sunnyjohn » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:30 am
Option E-
sentences allowing them....
allowing is modifying sentences..., them can not refer sentences..

sentences allowing themselves ( Here themselves is referring to sentences )
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:33 am
sunnyjohn wrote:sentencing allowing them....


allowing is modifying sentences..., them can not refer sentences..
Bro, if them in E refers to criminals then them in D also refers to criminals, their too refers to criminals.

what sentencing ?
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by sungoal » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:02 am
Hi mundasingh,

Some gerund phrases-especially those that contain "of" are awkward and can be fixed by changing the gerund into a noun, a main verb, or a participle.

In the option D, in their performing of is a gerund phrase containing "of". It is awkward and can be easily changed to precise construction by using "to perform" .
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by sunnyjohn » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:14 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
sunnyjohn wrote:sentencing allowing them....


allowing is modifying sentences..., them can not refer sentences..
Bro, if them in E refers to criminals then them in D also refers to criminals, their too refers to criminals.

what sentencing ?
Hmm...How about this sentence -

Americans allow Chinese to work in their ]factories.
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:16 am
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sunnyjohn wrote:sentencing allowing them....


allowing is modifying sentences..., them can not refer sentences..
Bro, if them in E refers to criminals then them in D also refers to criminals, their too refers to criminals.

what sentencing ?
Hmm...How about this sentence -

Americans allow Chinese to work in their ]factories.
Thats different .
there is no pronoun them here
All i am saying is 2-3 pronouns in a sentence usually refer to the same antecedent
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