Got a 600 on GMAT, need 700 on retake..Please advise!

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A pretty bad score indeed for me. I was hoping to touch 700 on the G Day. Here's a summary of my scores over the last 4 months, starting from May.

Materials covered
1. OG 11, Verbal Review, and Quants Review
2. MGMAT set of 8

GMAT Prep 1 570 (Q 47, V 23)
GMAT Prep 1 610 (Q 42, V 32)
MGMAT CAT1 600 (Q 43, V 31)
MGMAT CAT2 690 (Q 45, V 39) Took each section individually
MGMAT CAT3 670 (Q 47, V 34) Took each section individually
MGMAT CAT4 670 (Q 46, V 35)
GMAT Prep 2 680 (Q 48, V 35) 1st FLT
GMAT 600 (Q 47, V 27) 28th Aug, 08

While I was doing verbal, I was comfortable about SC. RC was difficult for me...the first passage was a disaster...second was easy..the rest two were difficult for me. CR was looking moderately difficult. My time management was ok....but it could've been better for the last 14 Qs.

Some specific things to note:
1. I use MGMAT strategies for attempting RC and CR. Towards the end of the test, I didn't write notes for CR..I just attempted the Qs.
2. My main strength in RC is Main Idea questions, but I couldn't find those Qs easy in the test.
3. My general understanding of RC passage was poor.
4. I think I was comfortable with SC.
5. I was ripped apart in a job interview just before the G day, and I saw signs like, "Morales are @ all time low, All hope is now gone" on the hoardings across the streets :). I was low to be honest

I have two targets now for a 700, in 5 weeks:
1. Increase my Quants score to 50
2. Increase my Verbal score in the range from 35 - 40.

How do I study? How do I focus on RC and CR? Which books now - I revised my entire material twice already? How many practice CATs?

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by reachac » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:00 pm
Hi Vikram,

Citing your prep test scores, I feel that you are very well on the right track to achieve the 700(+) score.

In response to your queries, I have the following suggestions/pointers,
1) CR seems to be an area you would like to better yourself at. You amy consider referring to the powerscore CR bible. It is good book, which comprehensively discusse the most common CR types
2) For RC. Though I feel that OG is most reliable and the single most important Tsource for preparing this section, I suggest the likes of verbal review and 3000RC doc for additional practice. Also kap800 has some very helpful startergies listed
3) Your Quants score seems to be very much upto the mark and may need just a lil brushing up on concepts and focus on some problem topics. Review all your prep test(you have given till date) and identify the main arae in quants you need to work a bit harder on!.
4) Do revise the OG (both V&Q
5) Do not split the prep tests(giving individualsections only). Write AWA on all the prep test and review your performance comprehensively to identify the patter of you mistake and the problem areas

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by Stacey Koprince » Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:42 am
I received a PM asking for my advice on this and also asking:
RC
- Should I start reading complex topics from e.g., McKinseyQuarterly to get familiar with RC?
- I am quite comfortable with general strategies of answering RC Qs, but I didn't have particular strategies for types of passages: Science, History, and Business etc...Should I build them?

CR
- I follow MGMAT strategy of understanding each line making notes and tagging it with a P or a C. Towards the end of the test, I think I got bored of doing so much scratchwork that I didn't make proper notes. I think it was a reason of doing badly in CR. Getting bored and not making proper notes is not good. Should I stick to making notes or should I follow a different strategy this time?
- Should I go for CR Bible?

SC
- What materials should I cover now?

QUANTS
- I have to increase my Quants score to 50. How?
- Should I go for Kap800?
It sounds like you had an issue with both stamina and timing on the verbal section - both of those together can really hurt you. You said your time management "could have been better" for the last third of the verbal questions and this is also when you stopped doing what you'd trained yourself to do for CR, so fatigue was kicking in.

Did you take the essays during your practice tests? Did you take the 10 minute breaks during the real test and have something to eat and drink? Etc. (And I suspect you already know that you shouldn't take the quant and verbal sections separately - but just to repeat... don't do that. :) )

I'm going to assume that your "gut" feelings about the different question types on the test were right, but do go look at the data from your last practice test or two before the real test to make sure. Did you really do well with SC and RC main idea, but struggle with some of the other stuff, as you felt you did on test day? Or is your "gut" a little bit wrong?

Think about why RC was more difficult for you on the real test. Are there certain passage types / topics that you don't like? (eg, a lot of people don't like the science passages and tend to do more poorly on them) Was there something you found especially confusing / difficult about the passage? What / why? Generally speaking, most people have a least favorite type of passage (hard science, business, social science), so know what that is for you and spend some more time studying those. Make sure to study how those passages tend to be structured, why the wrong answers are wrong, etc.

A colleague of mine did some research about reading sources that mimic the GMAT a bit. Here are the sources he found to be a good match:
* https://magazine.uchicago.edu/ - particularly articles in the "Investigations" tab
* https://harvardmagazine.com/
* https://sciam.com/ (This can get a bit too casual for the GMAT, but it's probably worth including because so many of our students get freaked out by science passages on the GMAT.)
It's been a decade since I last looked at a McKinsey article, so I don't remember how well that source would mimic a GMAT passage - sorry I can't advise there.

For CR, I'm guessing both timing and fatigue factored into this. Generally speaking, it's not a good idea to start using a new technique in the middle of the test (and dropping the old way you used to do something is, in fact, a new technique). I do like diagramming but I don't think you need to do the same level of diagram on every problem, nor do I think each person needs to write the same amount. Some people write only the conclusion because they have good short-term memories and find that they can remember most of what they need to know for the next 2 minutes. Some people write very little on arguments that seem easy to them, but write more on arguments that are more convoluted or confusing. It's fine to do that - as long as you practice it ahead of time and (a) know what works for you, and (b) stick with a consistent process. The process of diagramming / taking notes is not actually about the notes themselves. It's about training your brain to think analytically about what you're reading while you're reading it, and to focus on the most important stuff right from the start (and to know what is likely to be most important even on that first read-through).

So it sounds like you might need a bit more work on extracting information from arguments and analyzing that information. It's also useful to study (for both RC and CR):
- why wrong answers are wrong (in addition to why right answers are right)

- structure of information presented
--- for RC: background info vs. "The Big Point" (TBP) vs. supporting evidence for TBP
--- for CR: facts vs. claims, intermediate claims serving as premises vs. "overall" claim serving as conclusion

- how the wording of the question can help you to:
--- identify the question type (eg, weaken, explain)
--- find the conclusion (right in the question stem, lots of questions have either the conclusion or "keywords" pointing to the conclusion in the argument text)*

* For this reason, I prefer to read the question before I read the argument. If you haven't been doing this, you might want to take a look at whether doing so will be helpful to you.

It sounds like you do know the content for SC and quant (though I'm going more on your stated comfort with SC - there's no way for me to know for sure without working with you directly!). You may have some areas you need to review as far as content is concerned. With a Q47, you pretty much know most of the math and it's probably coming down to (a) some more obscure math rules / concepts, and (b) technique on harder questions - being able to figure out what they're asking and break things down into a doable 2-min process. So that's going to come down more to practice than anything else and I would go back to OG here. Look for the weird rules they test in the hardest problems and look for multiple ways of approaching those problems. Then look for connections between problems so that you can answer this question: how will I RECOGNIZE a similar problem of this same type in the future, so that I know what to do (that is, I don't have to figure it out from scratch)?

Same with SC - it's probably a combination of not knowing some of the more obscure things that can be tested and falling into traps (eg, picking what sounds good rather than what's actually grammatically correct). And here again I'd go back to OG. (When you start talking about the more obscure things, it's important to study from the source - because there are innumberable "obscure things" that could be tested. It could take you forever to study them all. So it's worth studying the ones that have actually showed up on official questions in the past - and the OG is the way to find those. It's generally not worth studying a bunch of obscure stuff from other sources b/c who knows whether that stuff would ever actually show up on the test?

For RC and CR, you do have some additional work to do out of OG as well. Those are the hardest question types for test-prep companies to mimic, so you want to make sure that you study structure and "why are the wrong answers wrong" stuff from official sources.

For all of these, you may also want to supplement with some new material so that you aren't only going over questions you've done before. I'd ask around the forums to see what other sources people prefer. You may also want to try GMAT Focus for the quant - this contains official, released test questions that are not found in OG or GMAT Prep. You do have to pay for it, but it's not too terribly expensive. (Unfortunately, they haven't yet released GMAT Focus for verbal.)

Oh - and of course your mental state leading into the test can make a big difference. Don't schedule any job interviews, major work deadlines, big stressful family events, or anything like that in the several days (or even the week!) before the test. :)
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Retaking the gmat

by shub » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:14 pm
i really like reading your advisory posts i am in a position where in i badly need some advice.i took my GMAT on sept 30th after 3 months of prep.i was scoring 660-720 range in the gmat prep tests ,i used to dip to 620-640 as well at times.however the actual GMAT proved to be a diiferent story altogther and i ended with a very disappointing score of 570.i dont intend to give up and i have decided to retake the GMAT this time in december
My scores were
Verbal:27
Quans:42
i felt i did well on verbal ..and i was well paced in time for the first 1-15 questions ,but somewhere down the lane i messed up the time schedule i had charted out.i had to rush through the questions 20-30..in order to complete the test.i find the CR in verbal really tough..i have practiced quite a bit and my performance keeps varying each time in CR during mock tests i took up before the exam
now that i intend to retake the GMAT..please suggest some kind of a strategy for verbal ..i think i cld improve my quans as well..i am aiming for a 700+ this time and i really really want it..please advice on how i got to prepare.I have OG and kaplan with me.i recently went and got tow more books :Kaplan 800 Advanced prep and pearson gmat prep.Kindly advice on how i got to start out preparing this time. Also please advice if should be taking MGMAT series of test.Can you give me the links where i could get this book.test series

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GMAT 570 :-(

by superrrom » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:58 am
I guess I have similar problem as the last poster.
English is not my native language.
My GMAT score is 570 Q 40, V - 28, which reflects previous prepGMATs. The Q portion on GMAT was very hard, I felt like I had to guess 40% of the questions, I was late with timing as well. The V portion seemed easy, I was ahead. The results show that I actually scored lower in verbal.
Need some advice. I would like to boost my score at least up to 650 and take a test at the beginning of January again.
I studied for 4 months. I studied through all of the GMAC guides, Princeton and Kaplan 800 (quan portion). Unfortunately OC guides prepare you for average result of 550.
I see that I need way better results in Verbal and higher in Math to achieve 650+.
I'm not going to give up.
I would really appreciate your precious help! :-)

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by Stacey Koprince » Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:05 am
Hey, guys - I would love to help but I think this thread is going to get confusing if I start giving advice to two separate people, so I'm going to ask you each to start a new thread with your question. Send me a link to your new thread via PM and I'll follow the link and answer your question.

In addition to the info you've already provided, please provide answers to these questions, for each separate question type or content area that you want to discuss:

- Are you struggling with content, technique, timing, or all of the above?
- If content, what specifically is giving you the most trouble? (eg, in SC, modifiers and verbs) Include in this category the different types of questions for CR and RC (eg, find an assumption vs. weaken or inference vs. main idea).
- On what types of questions or content areas are you struggling with technique or timing? (Technique is knowing how to identify / categorize a particular type of question and knowing what you're expected to do / answer as you move through the problem.) Give me as much detail as you can about how you struggle (eg, I'm spending close to 3 min per CR question or I find it difficult to categorize number properties problems - I don't know that that's what they are until I look at the solution).
- Also give me any other detail you have noticed about your own strengths and weaknesses, as well as the kinds of errors that you tend to make repeatedly.
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