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Submitted my application a couple of days ago, any applicant of this year as well? Please contact me, we can talk about a lot of stuff together.

Share some of my background, from a world top 50 university, finance major, GMAT 750.
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by ddietzel » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:26 am
I've been looking at what the last two years worth of applicants wrote in their discussions, but was surprised to see that there is not a discussion going on between applicants of this year!

I submitted my application a few days ago as well, before the deadline of course, and haven't been able to figure out when interviews are going out for us, as our application deadline this year was two weeks before the July 1st deadline the previous applicants had.

A little about my application: I'm an austrian citizen that went to chicago to study art at the top art school in the country, the School of the Art Institute of Chicago (it always battles for the #1 spot with RISD and Yale). I got 690 on the GMAT, but 6.0 on both essay questions. My application revolves around how I engaged with the photo department in my school, taking initiative when we were invited to an art fair, and starting my own gallery with the help of as much business literature as I could find to help me make it work. One of my essays, the mistake, deals with why starting a gallery was a mistake, because of a fatal assumption I made transferring given facts from other industries to the ambiguous art world. I discussed that oddly enough, while we didn't sell a single piece, we were asked to donate 12 art works to one of the best photography museums in the country. Dealing with this simultaneous failure and success, I furthered the argument that a business education could help me reconcile creative integrity with commercial viability.

doesn't sound all too bad, but I don't have any grades in my school, which is based on a credit/no credit system, and while I passed every single class not having a GPA beyond "I passed all my classes" makes me quite nervous!

So that's my application. I have millions of questions for all those who applied, but seeing how it's just two people at this point, I thought I'd ask how you presented yourself in your application.

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by uwhusky » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:35 am
Without GPA, you might want to consider strengthening your GMAT score to at least the average if not higher.

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by ddietzel » Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:42 am
The range of scores accepted last year for HBS 2+2 were from 510 - 790. I don't think the GMAT is the variable they measure the rest of your application by, I think priority is whether you fit, what you've done, how you look at yourself and the world, and then they double check if your analytical skills are up to par. You can have an 800 score, but if you don't know why you want an MBA or why harvard, they will see right through you.

https://www.hbs.edu/mba/profiles/classprofile_2+2.html

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by uwhusky » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:31 am
I agree, except that most applicants have GPA, which is also a very important factor in their decision.

You are below the mean of their average applicant score, no GPA, and without some crazy story about your life. I am just being realistic that higher GMAT score will at least compensate a bit more on the complete lack of GPA.

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by ddietzel » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:19 pm
uwhusky wrote:I agree, except that most applicants have GPA, which is also a very important factor in their decision.

You are below the mean of their average applicant score, no GPA, and without some crazy story about your life. I am just being realistic that higher GMAT score will at least compensate a bit more on the complete lack of GPA.
I couldn't agree more. But again, while this could be a disadvantage, I see it as an advantage. Simply put, it makes me different. Not in a "eccentricity for eccentricity's sake" difference, but one that sets me apart especially if I am willing to embrace that difference in education as an asset rather than a liability.

I am still very curious if there are any other applicants to this program, share your stories!

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by ddietzel » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:19 am
I just wanted to let those know that the date for the interview notifications has been announced via the HBS admissions blog. They will be sending around 200 invitations out on Monday, July 19th. From what I see there will be no waiting list, and those not invited will receive an immediate "ding"

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by 2+2@HBS_2015 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:42 am
ddietzel wrote:I just wanted to let those know that the date for the interview notifications has been announced via the HBS admissions blog. They will be sending around 200 invitations out on Monday, July 19th. From what I see there will be no waiting list, and those not invited will receive an immediate "ding"

Source: https://www.hbs.edu/mba/admissions/blog.html
haha fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by essaysnark » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:01 am
ddietzel wrote:I just wanted to let those know that the date for the interview notifications has been announced via the HBS admissions blog. They will be sending around 200 invitations out on Monday, July 19th. From what I see there will be no waiting list, and those not invited will receive an immediate "ding"
EssaySnark says, there is never a waiting list for the interview process. Getting invited to interview is the first step; that alone does not guarantee an offer of admission. EssaySnark doesn't believe 2+2 ever had a waiting list in the past, so this is not to imply there would be one this year either, it's just meant as clarification on how things work. So on July 19th, 2+2 candidates either get invited for the on-campus interviewing scheduled for the week of August 18th, or you're out. Last year, BTW, interviews were held during the same week. So from here on out, EssaySnark believes the adcom will be following a similar schedule to last year, with decisions likely released around Labor Day. Last year, the decision date was 9/1, the Tuesday after the holiday. Probably the deadline was moved up two weeks to give the adcom more time for the initial review. On decision date, interviewed candidates will either get an offer, or be declined; again, probably no waitlist.

To comment on ddietzel's "no GPA" issue: don't worry, the bschools know how to evaluate transcripts from all the different universities and grading systems. HBS can translate how SAIC reports -- they've probably had plenty of other applicants from your university before, given the sheer volume of applicants over the years. Stanford doesn't issue grades for undergrad either, so HBS can deal with it. There is, in EssaySnark's opinion, no reason to try for a higher GMAT simply because your college doesn't issue grades.

A 690 GMAT probably qualifies, although do note that even if the GMAT range for 2+2 has been vast -- and realize, they've published the ENTIRE range, whereas almost every other "GMAT range" you'll ever see is the 80% range, which is a very different metric -- the average GMAT for last year's accepted 2+2 class was EXCEPTIONALLY high at 727/ This is probably the highest average GMAT of any program around. This obviously means that there were probably very, very few accepted apps below the ~680 point (just a guess on EssaySnark's part).

The other comment is, as you 2+2 applicants are likely already aware, in the first two years of this program, HBS was looking for kids who weren't traditional bschool material. This year, they specifically said that anyone should apply. In the past, the art school major would likely have been at an advantage. Who knows what evaluation criteria they're using now? And who knows if the volume of apps went up due to their change in strategy?

These are questions that few except the HBS adcom probably could answer, however they certainly affect each applicant's prospects.

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by ddietzel » Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:37 pm
ddietzel thanks essaysnark, but really wonders why he speaks of himself in the third person. I had a good time reading your post pretending that it was written by a website that had somehow gained sentience and was now posting on other websites.

but seriously, thanks for the feedback. cornerning of the waiting list, I didn't know the 2+2 program does not have one, I thought I had found a new piece of info. yes, the decision notification is on sept. 1.

As for the broadening of the undergraduate majors, I think it will have an impact, but I am not sure of the scale. Even when they said they did not want any, they still accepted 3% business majors. My guess is that this figure will rise to 10%. My real guess as to why they are broadening it is that they are seeking to connect to more students. 27% of the admitted candidates are harvard undergraduates, it doesn't seem that they are reaching as many people as they would like if they are taking so many from their own back yard.

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