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by tanviet » Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:06 am
I think the question is not good. Both A and B are assumption.

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by David@VeritasPrep » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:39 am
I appreciate the interest in this one and I can see that some people feel that some editing is in order.

For the sake of argument let us say that this question is not good. This is not the point as you will never see this question on test day it is not an official question and if it were then it would still not be on the test as they do not return to any questions that have ever been released.

The point is that when you see an answer choice like "B) Domestic horses are genetically identical to wild horses." It is almost impossible that this will EVER be the correct answer to an assumption question. As I said in the posts above an answer like this is much too strong to be the correct answer to an assumption.

Is it really REQUIRED that domestic and wild horses be genetically IDENTICAL? Is that required? If there is one small variation among horses' DNA as there are so many among humans' DNA could the horses hooves still be similar in practice? Do you see what I mean? The correct answer to an assumption question is something that must be true or else the argument fails.

For example, human beings require oxygen every hour of our lives (and, by the way, we are all genetically very different from each other). Take that away and we are gone. This is how an assumption works. So a choice like B can only be the correct answer if you have overwhelming evidence to support the notion that these horses must be genetically identical in every way. That is very unlikely. This is a trap answer.

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by vikram4689 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:16 pm
Hi David,

I Could not understand why B is Out of Scope. I think it could be a strong contender, wild horses are not lame and do not have problems in a particular conditions and NOW arguments is saying that domestic horses should be given same conditions so as to alleviate them from lameness and hoof problems. Now they have to be similar so that the effect that conditions have on wild horses are replicated on the domestic horses.
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by David@VeritasPrep » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:05 am
Vikram -

I am glad you have asked this question so that I can write something that I have been thinking about. You know that correct answers to assumption questions are really very similar to correct answers to inference questions. In each case you really do want to avoid really strong statements, unless these are absolutely necessary.

For example, take an inference answer choice that says, "All who read my postings will earn a 700 on an actual administration of the GMAT this year." Wow!! That is hard to prove! Imagine the stimulus that would be necessary for this to be a correct inference answer. It would literally have to say these things. A better choice would be, "Reading Beat the GMAT postings offers you a chance for improvement." Much easier to prove.

The same holds true for assumption questions. What kind of assumption question would we need to have where the correct answer - the REQUIRED ASSUMPTION - is "All who read my postings will earn a 700 on an actual administration of the GMAT this year." What kinds of wild claims must have been made in the stimulus if the REQUIRED assumption is this?

You must be wary of two kinds of answer choices for assumption questions. 1) Answers that are too strong. Remember the answer choice is something that is REQUIRED. When will it be required that "ALL" or "NONE" have some property? If you come back later and write about your success on the GMAT and you tell us that you scored over 700 on the exam does your claim require that "ALL people score over 700?" Certainly not! It does require that it be "POSSIBLE to score over 700", which is a much weaker statement.

2) Be wary of answers that are too specific. Let's stick with the claim that you scored over 700 on the GMAT. Does this require that you scored 720? Or 730? or 790? No! Overly specific answers are very rarely good assumption answers.

A good assumption answer is often something that does not seem to do much as it is written. In other words, it seems quite weak if you ADD it to the argument. That is because the focus of assumption questions is not to ADD to the argument but to imagine what happens if we TAKE something AWAY from the argument.

Let's look at choice A and B from this argument.

Choice B) Is both to strong and too specific. "B) Domestic horses are genetically identical to wild horses." No I know that you are likely thinking that this is very helpful to your argument. No doubt it is, but that is not the point of an assumption question. The point is is the statement REQUIRED? So, is it absolutely required that these horses be genetically identical? NO!! This is WAY too strong and WAY too specific. In truth wild horses are usually a little smaller than domestic horses, the coloring is often different, too. Does this matter to the hooves? You and I are not genetically identical yet the same sorts of nutrition and exercise are generally good for each of us.

DO NOT THINK OF HOW NICE A CHOICE WOULD BE WHEN ADDED! YOU MUST THINK OF HOW BAD IT IS FOR YOUR ARGUMENT WHEN SOMETHING IS TAKEN AWAY.

Look at Choice A) "The conditions under which wild horses live play a role in creating strong hooves and avoiding lameness." Now what if this is not true? What if the conditions play no role whatsoever. What if the lameness is do to the fact that domestic horses live much longer - the way that few people would ever get cancer if we all died at age 30? Now this would definitely harm this argument! That is what you are looking for in an assumption question!
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by amit2k9 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:22 am
pretty A here.
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