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by showbu » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:04 pm
One critic wrote that, if the best-selling guide to finding a husband is right, the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

A. the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship

B. the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship

C. honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship

D. the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship

E. the necessity of honest and trust to a relationship
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Re: Honesty and trust in a relationship

by logitech » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:14 pm
One critic wrote that, if the best-selling guide to finding a husband is right, the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

The core of the sentence is

critic wrote that X is wrong.

we need to find the OBJECT,X, in a noun clause



A. the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship

No auxiliary verb

B. the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship

C. honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship

D. the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship

E. the necessity of honest and trust to a relationship

I might be wrong here. I am not confident with my logic :oops:
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Re: Honesty and trust in a relationship

by piyush_nitt » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:22 am
showbu wrote:One critic wrote that, if the best-selling guide to finding a husband is right, the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

A. the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship _ Correct

B. the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship -

C. honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship

D. the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship

E. the necessity of honest and trust to a relationship
IMO A
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by iamcste » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:08 am
showbu wrote:One critic wrote that, if the best-selling guide to finding a husband is right, the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

A. the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship

B. the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship

C. honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship

D. the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship

E. the necessity of honest and trust to a relationship
Look at B and D eliminating the Subodinate clause " If...is right"

B and D repeat that again..

B-One critic wrote that the Idea that

D-One critic wrote that the Idea that

C- Honest and Trust express similar idea hence call for a singular verb

D- to a relationship is unidomatic

Choose A
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Re: Honesty and trust in a relationship

by ronniecoleman » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:03 am
iamcste wrote:
showbu wrote:One critic wrote that, if the best-selling guide to finding a husband is right, the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

A. the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship

B. the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship

C. honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship

D. the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship

E. the necessity of honest and trust to a relationship
Look at B and D eliminating the Subodinate clause " If...is right"

B and D repeat that again..

B-One critic wrote that the Idea that

D-One critic wrote that the Idea that

C- Honest and Trust express similar idea hence call for a singular verb

D- to a relationship is unidomatic



Iamcste,

subordinate inside subordinate ??

whats wrong with that

can you pls show me some gmat eg where that option has been negated

so this sentence

i declare that the council that takes care of people be banned.
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by iamcste » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:44 am
ronniecoleman wrote:can you pls show me some gmat eg where that option has been negated
yes! refer this example
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Re: Honesty and trust in a relationship

by ronniecoleman » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:09 am
iamcste wrote:
ronniecoleman wrote:can you pls show me some gmat eg where that option has been negated
yes! refer this example

idea of the necessity of honesty and trust

isn't it too awkard


agree that honesty and trust is singular , which can be the reason for eliminating B

But i don't go with you on subordinate in subordinate

Can you pls clarify?
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by iamcste » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:20 am
ronniecoleman wrote:
idea of the necessity of honesty and trust

isn't it too awkard.
Can you pls clarify?

you can eliminate D on unidiomatic part also.." to a relationship" IMO

secondly, look at both the constructions

i declare that "the council that takes care of people" be banned

here bold part is a proper object. "takes" is not a proper verb

One critic wrote that " the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship " is fundamentally wrong.

here the bold part is a clause.."is" a proper verb

so, I dont object to the construction "that" followed by "that" but I object the relative clause carried by the second "that"

A is not good for me too..but, I had to choose one
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by ronniecoleman » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:25 am
iamcste wrote:
ronniecoleman wrote:
idea of the necessity of honesty and trust

isn't it too awkard.
Can you pls clarify?

you can eliminate D on unidiomatic part also.." to a relationship" IMO

secondly, look at both the constructions

i declare that "the council that takes care of people" be banned

here bold part is a proper object. "takes" is not a proper verb

One critic wrote that " the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship " is fundamentally wrong.

here the bold part is a clause.."is" a proper verb

so, I dont object to the construction "that" followed by "that" but I object the relative clause carried by the second "that"

A is not good for me too..but, I had to choose one
you mean to say


that << object >> correct

that << clause >> wrong or awkward
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by iamcste » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:34 am
ronniecoleman wrote:
you mean to say

that << object >> correct

that << clause >> wrong or awkward

One critic wrote that "X" is fundamentally incorrect

In such a format "X" must be an object and not a clause IMO

so, dont hardwire that "clause" is incorrect
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by showbu » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:36 pm
OA B
showbu wrote:One critic wrote that, if the best-selling guide to finding a husband is right, the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

A. the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship

B. the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship

C. honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship

D. the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship

E. the necessity of honest and trust to a relationship
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by logitech » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:14 pm
We should discuss this one more until we find out why OA makes sense.
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by showbu » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:51 pm
C conflicts with the original meaning.

logitech wrote:One critic wrote that, if the best-selling guide to finding a husband is right, the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

The core of the sentence is

critic wrote that X is wrong.

we need to find the OBJECT,X, in a noun clause



A. the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship

No auxiliary verb

B. the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship

C. honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship

D. the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship

E. the necessity of honest and trust to a relationship

I might be wrong here. I am not confident with my logic :oops:
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by logitech » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:17 am
showbu wrote:C conflicts with the original meaning.

logitech wrote:One critic wrote that, if the best-selling guide to finding a husband is right, the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

The core of the sentence is

critic wrote that X is wrong.

we need to find the OBJECT,X, in a noun clause



A. the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship

No auxiliary verb

B. the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship

C. honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship

D. the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship

E. the necessity of honest and trust to a relationship

I might be wrong here. I am not confident with my logic :oops:
How so ?
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by akhpad » Thu May 20, 2010 11:42 pm
OA: B
Source: KAPLAN 800

One critic wrote that, if the best-selling guide to finding a husband is right, the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

A. the idea of the necessity of honesty and trust in a relationship => INCORRECT
B. the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship
C. honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship
D. the idea that honesty and trust is necessary to a relationship => INCORRECT
E. the necessity of honest and trust to a relationship => INCORRECT

I little confused over B and C

B: One critic wrote that the idea that honesty and trust are necessary in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

THE IDEA is fundamentally wrong. => CORRECT

C: One critic wrote that honesty and trust are not necessary in a relationship is fundamentally wrong.

One critic wrote is fundamentally wrong. => INCORRECT

This way, I tried to understand it. Is my understanding is correct?
I believe that it is correct.
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