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Nice one by Veritas !

by himu » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:44 am
The company's efforts to seek advance orders for its computers will set off an intense new phase with its chief rival, one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions.

one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions.

which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than their visions

which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than by its visions

one that will be determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than its visions.

one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers as by its vision.
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by abcgmat » Mon Jun 03, 2013 4:56 am
a.one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions.

b.which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than their visions

c.which will determine more how efficiently each company can produce computers than by its visions

d.one that will be determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than its visions.

e.one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers as by its vision.

Eliminate b,c as which doesnot refer to any noun
Left A,D,E
more X than Y- more require than as more is superlative
Eliminate E
Left A,D
A- theirs visions
D- its visions
In the non undelined section you see its has 'for its computuers' so the underlined should also have 'its' and not their as it is refering to company( has vision) not computers (dont have vision).

So Answer should be D
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by himu » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:02 am
I am sorry the OA is not D.

I will wait until tomorrow to disclose the OA.

Any other takers ??
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by fulltapori » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:10 am
I think it must be D, but if its not then it should be C. To me D still sounds better.[/spoiler]
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by snigdha1605 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:48 pm
[spoiler]IMO - OA : A

It follows the structure - More by X than by Y.

But I'm a little thrown off by the 'their' in the sentence. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

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by ice_rush » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:54 pm
I'd pick C. here which is referring to the intense new phase.

What's the OA?
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by himu » Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:28 pm
@snigdha1605, your are correct !
Also, to answer your *their* : it refers to *efforts *

Experts: pls correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks.
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[spoiler]Solution: A

Explanation: The key in this problem is to make sure the correct answer contains a logical and parallel comparison. (B) and (D) can be quickly eliminated because they seem to be modifying "chief rival" (and create illogical meaning even if they were modifying the "new phase"). In (D) the "by" is required to make the construction parallel and "its visions" needs to be the plural "their visions". In (E) the construction "more...as" is incorrect as it should be "more...than" Answer is (A).[/spoiler]
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by vivekchandrams » Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:23 am
Hi himu,

I don't think their refers to efforts because the last phrase would then mean 'the efforts' visions'. Please explain
himu wrote:@snigdha1605, your are correct !
Also, to answer your *their* : it refers to *efforts *

Experts: pls correct me if I am wrong.

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[spoiler]Solution: A

Explanation: The key in this problem is to make sure the correct answer contains a logical and parallel comparison. (B) and (D) can be quickly eliminated because they seem to be modifying "chief rival" (and create illogical meaning even if they were modifying the "new phase"). In (D) the "by" is required to make the construction parallel and "its visions" needs to be the plural "their visions". In (E) the construction "more...as" is incorrect as it should be "more...than" Answer is (A).[/spoiler]
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by Gowri@CrackVerbal » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:16 am
Options B and C can be eliminated right away because of the improperly placed modifier. In these options, 'which' incorrectly refers to 'rival', whereas the right reference should be to 'phase'.

The idiom in action here is 'more by X than by Y', where X is 'how efficiently each company can produce computers' and Y is 'their visions.'

Option D is incorrect because it is of the form 'more by X than Y'. Secondly, the Y portion uses 'its visions' instead of 'their visions'. We need the plural form 'their' because we are talking about the visions of multiple companies.

Option E also has similar errors. It is of the form 'more by X as by Y'- 'more' must be accompanied by 'than' and not 'as'. Secondly, this option also incorrectly uses 'its vision'.

Thus, we are left with the correct answer A.
In option A, 'their' refers to the various companies. We know there are multiple companies because the sentence says 'each company'.

Hope this is clear. :)
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by faraz_jeddah » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:35 am
Gowri@CrackVerbal wrote:Options B and C can be eliminated right away because of the improperly placed modifier. In these options, 'which' incorrectly refers to 'rival', whereas the right reference should be to 'phase'.

The idiom in action here is 'more by X than by Y', where X is 'how efficiently each company can produce computers' and Y is 'their visions.'

Option D is incorrect because it is of the form 'more by X than Y'. Secondly, the Y portion uses 'its visions' instead of 'their visions'. We need the plural form 'their' because we are talking about the visions of multiple companies.

Option E also has similar errors. It is of the form 'more by X as by Y'- 'more' must be accompanied by 'than' and not 'as'. Secondly, this option also incorrectly uses 'its vision'.

Thus, we are left with the correct answer A.
In option A, 'their' refers to the various companies. We know there are multiple companies because the sentence says 'each company'.

Hope this is clear. :)
So you're saying
'Each company' = plural
What about 'each of the companies' = singular right?
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by Gowri@CrackVerbal » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:04 am
faraz_jeddah wrote:
Gowri@CrackVerbal wrote:Options B and C can be eliminated right away because of the improperly placed modifier. In these options, 'which' incorrectly refers to 'rival', whereas the right reference should be to 'phase'.

The idiom in action here is 'more by X than by Y', where X is 'how efficiently each company can produce computers' and Y is 'their visions.'

Option D is incorrect because it is of the form 'more by X than Y'. Secondly, the Y portion uses 'its visions' instead of 'their visions'. We need the plural form 'their' because we are talking about the visions of multiple companies.

Option E also has similar errors. It is of the form 'more by X as by Y'- 'more' must be accompanied by 'than' and not 'as'. Secondly, this option also incorrectly uses 'its vision'.

Thus, we are left with the correct answer A.
In option A, 'their' refers to the various companies. We know there are multiple companies because the sentence says 'each company'.

Hope this is clear. :)
So you're saying
'Each company' = plural
What about 'each of the companies' = singular right?
My point was really not about singular/plural. It was about how we can identify that more than one company is being discussed. Let me illustrate the point through examples:
We approached each of the companies in the building for sponsorship.
Multiple companies involved.

We approached each company in the building for sponsorship.
Multiple companies involved.

So there is no difference between 'each' and 'each of' in this context.

'Each' always goes with a singular verb. For instance,
Each of the boys were at the cricket match. Incorrect.
Each of the boys was at the cricket match. Correct.
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by mattce » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:56 pm
Sorry guys, I've been reading the responses and I'm still confused:

The company's efforts to seek advance orders for its computers will set off an intense new phase with its chief rival, one determined more by how efficiently each company can produce computers than by their visions.

Aren't we saying - each company's efficiency will be more of a determining factor than each company's visions?

I.e, For each company, ITS efficiency will be more of a determining factor than ITS visions?

I have no idea why we are using 'their' in this case.. I feel that this pronoun should be modifying 'each company'..

Thanks for any clarification!

-- Also, does this sound like a comma splice to anyone else? I feel that the sentence should read '... an intense new phase with its chief rival, which will be determined' or '... rival, the result of which will be determined', or '... new phase with its chief rival that will be determined...' --

The whole ' , one determined ' just sounds wrong to me.

I'm just stating my thoughts though, not sure if it's wrong since I'm a long ways from a 51V score!
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