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by gmat_perfect » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:24 pm
Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he

[spoiler]OA: B[/spoiler]

I have searched the New york times and found that just because is ok.

I am between A and B.

Can any one explain why A is wrong?

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by reply2spg » Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:53 pm
IMO A
gmat_perfect wrote:Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he

[spoiler]OA: B[/spoiler]

I have searched the New york times and found that just because is ok.

I am between A and B.

Can any one explain why A is wrong?

Thanks/
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by gmat_perfect » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:27 pm
any more thought on it?

Why is A incorrect?

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by Brian@VeritasPrep » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:25 pm
Idiomatically, "just because" could be okay, but let me ask this - what is the subject of the verb "did not mean" in choice A?

That verb needs a subject, and "the fact" supplies the subject in B and D.

What's the source of this question? The past-perfect tense is a little awkward in B. I suppose that the fact that the 886 events happened before the 893 events may be the justification for the past-perfect "had" for the verbs in the first part of the sentence, but it's not beautiful grammar by any means...
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:10 am
Brian@VeritasPrep wrote:Idiomatically, "just because" could be okay, but let me ask this - what is the subject of the verb "did not mean" in choice A?

That verb needs a subject, and "the fact" supplies the subject in B and D.

What's the source of this question? The past-perfect tense is a little awkward in B. I suppose that the fact that the 886 events happened before the 893 events may be the justification for the past-perfect "had" for the verbs in the first part of the sentence, but it's not beautiful grammar by any means...
Hi Brian why are we rejecting E.
Is it because of the missing "that" at the end of the underlined fragment and the usage of the past perfect had in "Just because King Alfred had " ?
I read somewhere that "that" cannot modify an action.
But here "that" modifies " mean"
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by Emeraldweapon » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:42 am
gmat_perfect wrote:Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he also won the loyalty of its citizens: the invading Danes were well aware of this weakness and used it to their advantage in 893.

(A) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he
(B) The fact that King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886 did not mean that he had
(C) Just because King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he
(D) The fact that King Alfred occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean that he
(E) Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London in 886, it did not mean he

[spoiler]OA: B[/spoiler]

I have searched the New york times and found that just because is ok.

I am between A and B.

Can any one explain why A is wrong?

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IMHO, A wrong b/c it uses wrong tense. If A were "Just because King Alfred had occupied and fortified London...", then A would be fine
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by Emeraldweapon » Thu Aug 05, 2010 6:44 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
Brian@VeritasPrep wrote:Idiomatically, "just because" could be okay, but let me ask this - what is the subject of the verb "did not mean" in choice A?

That verb needs a subject, and "the fact" supplies the subject in B and D.

What's the source of this question? The past-perfect tense is a little awkward in B. I suppose that the fact that the 886 events happened before the 893 events may be the justification for the past-perfect "had" for the verbs in the first part of the sentence, but it's not beautiful grammar by any means...
Hi Brian why are we rejecting E.
Is it because of the missing "that" at the end of the underlined fragment and the usage of the past perfect had in "Just because King Alfred had " ?
I read somewhere that "that" cannot modify an action.
But here "that" modifies " mean"
E wrong b/c of ambiguous pronoun "it". What does it refer to?
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by selfmade » Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:22 am
Another vote for B. It uses the proper subject "The Fact".

C, D and E can be easily ruled out by looking at the last word in the each option - he is already not underlined in the original statement, so we dont need "he" again in the options.
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by Brian@VeritasPrep » Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:34 pm
mundasingh123 wrote:
Brian@VeritasPrep wrote:Idiomatically, "just because" could be okay, but let me ask this - what is the subject of the verb "did not mean" in choice A?

That verb needs a subject, and "the fact" supplies the subject in B and D.

What's the source of this question? The past-perfect tense is a little awkward in B. I suppose that the fact that the 886 events happened before the 893 events may be the justification for the past-perfect "had" for the verbs in the first part of the sentence, but it's not beautiful grammar by any means...
Hi Brian why are we rejecting E.
Is it because of the missing "that" at the end of the underlined fragment and the usage of the past perfect had in "Just because King Alfred had " ?
I read somewhere that "that" cannot modify an action.
But here "that" modifies " mean"
Good question - E has that pronoun "it" immediately following the modifier ("it did not mean he..."), and "it" does not have a clear antecedent. We need a noun for the pronoun to refer to, and, as in A and C, "just because" isn't a noun, so "it" is a pronoun with no noun attached.
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by josemaus » Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:02 pm
Manhattan claims that the word "it" does not always need an antecedent. Given Manhattan's explanation, what is the main decider in B being right?

I chose B, because it maintained parallelism with the two "that"s, and it was less akward than D.
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