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by Aman verma » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:56 am
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by harsh.champ » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:04 am
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On this account I will definitely agree with Stuart. Statement I do appear to be impossible and even I do find it hard to believe.Now for the source,people may consider it as good as real GMAT question( I got it from somebody) and there is no error in writing the first statement or the question stem.Now I cannot talk any further about the source as I don't want to jeapordise my chances.

And we are always taught not to question the GMAT question writer. Why can't the question writer be wrong ? What if the GMAT question writer is wrong ? Why can't the ETS or Pearsonvue be wrong ?
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by kstv » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:36 am
Thanks Stuart
You nailed it when you say On the actual GMAT, the two statements will never contradict each other.

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by Ian Stewart » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:49 am
Aman verma wrote: On this account I will definitely agree with Stuart. Statement I do appear to be impossible and even I do find it hard to believe.Now for the source,people may consider it as good as real GMAT question( I got it from somebody) and there is no error in writing the first statement or the question stem.Now I cannot talk any further about the source as I don't want to jeapordise my chances.
The only reason it would 'jeapordise your chances' to reveal the source of the questions you post is if that source is publishing questions from the active GMAT question pool. If that's the case, stop posting those questions here and tell a moderator immediately - this forum will be shut down if you are doing this. Otherwise you should always reveal the source of a question you post; it is a rule on this forum, as I understand, and if it is not, it should be.
Aman verma wrote: And we are always taught not to question the GMAT question writer. Why can't the question writer be wrong ? What if the GMAT question writer is wrong ? Why can't the ETS or Pearsonvue go wrong ?
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by Aman verma » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:28 am
When I mentioned Jeapordise I only meant that the GMAT prep co. won't let their questions posted for free on the Net.They atleast won't allow me do that.This cannot possibly be an active GMAT question.[/quote]
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by Stuart@KaplanGMAT » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:25 pm
Aman verma wrote:
Ian Stewart wrote:
Aman verma wrote: On this account I will definitely agree with Stuart. Statement I do appear to be impossible and even I do find it hard to believe.Now for the source,people may consider it as good as real GMAT question( I got it from somebody : GMAT PREP COMPANY) and there is no error in writing the first statement or the question stem.Now I cannot talk any further about the source as I don't want to jeapordise my chances.
The only reason it would 'jeapordise your chances' to reveal the source of the questions you post is if that source is publishing questions from the active GMAT question pool. If that's the case, stop posting those questions here and tell a moderator immediately - this forum will be shut down if you are doing this. Otherwise you should always reveal the source of a question you post; it is a rule on this forum, as I understand, and if it is not, it should be.

When I mentioned Jeapordise I only meant that the GMAT prep co. won't let their questions posted for free on the Net.They atleast won't allow me do that.This cannot possibly be an active GMAT question.
Then you're violating copyright by posting the question on this site and, again, could get the site in trouble; not mentioning the name is actually more of a copyright infringement than giving the proper author credit for its work.

Just because the question is created by a "GMAT PREP COMPANY" does not mean it's a good question. Heck, anyone can call himself a "prep company" to lend authority to his product (and many people have, actually hurting test takers who trust the material provided).

A number of questions you've posted from this shadowy company have proven to be very poor questions indeed; my advice would be to stop posting these questions entirely, since they're of little (or negative) value and questionable legality. The only reason I've been replying to these threads is to help the poor folks who are taking these questions seriously.
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by Aman verma » Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:43 am
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Aman verma wrote:
Ian Stewart wrote:
Aman verma wrote: On this account I will definitely agree with Stuart. Statement I do appear to be impossible and even I do find it hard to believe.Now for the source,people may consider it as good as real GMAT question( I got it from somebody : GMAT PREP COMPANY) and there is no error in writing the first statement or the question stem.Now I cannot talk any further about the source as I don't want to jeapordise my chances.
The only reason it would 'jeapordise your chances' to reveal the source of the questions you post is if that source is publishing questions from the active GMAT question pool. If that's the case, stop posting those questions here and tell a moderator immediately - this forum will be shut down if you are doing this. Otherwise you should always reveal the source of a question you post; it is a rule on this forum, as I understand, and if it is not, it should be.

When I mentioned Jeapordise I only meant that the GMAT prep co. won't let their questions posted for free on the Net.They atleast won't allow me do that.This cannot possibly be an active GMAT question.
Then you're violating copyright by posting the question on this site and, again, could get the site in trouble; not mentioning the name is actually more of a copyright infringement than giving the proper author credit for its work.

Just because the question is created by a "GMAT PREP COMPANY" does not mean it's a good question. Heck, anyone can call himself a "prep company" to lend authority to his product (and many people have, actually hurting test takers who trust the material provided).

A number of questions you've posted from this shadowy company have proven to be very poor questions indeed; my advice would be to stop posting these questions entirely, since they're of little (or negative) value and questionable legality. The only reason I've been replying to these threads is to help the poor folks who are taking these questions seriously.
Well !! nobody can post actual GMAT question. We can only post practice questions. And practice questions will definitely not match actual questions. Therefore anybody can call them poor if they cannot handle those questions. And nobody is claiming the questions to be of good or great quality .They are only meant for practice and raise one's one problem solving ability.If you cannot provide any constructive suggestion stop making such wasteful comments cause most of them sucks big time and poor folks take those worthless comments seriously. And I cannot possibly manufacture those questions; I don't have that level of expertise.

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by okigbo » Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:00 am
That response was unnecessary and disrespectful. These experts take many valuable hours answering questions on this forum. If you won't follow forum rules, then I suggest you avoid coming here.

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by GMATSUCKER » Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:39 am
okigbo wrote:That response was unnecessary and disrespectful. These experts take many valuable hours answering questions on this forum. If you won't follow forum rules, then I suggest you avoid coming here.

Plain and simple...
I would like to disagree with you. I have seen stuart making similar comments on Aman's post repeatedly ,also using the word suck. Aman just replied in the same language.If the experts do not follow the rules themselves , how can they expect others to follow them.I guess stuart has just got a taste of his own medicine ! Experts should not spend valuable hours constantly nagging the students.I think on this ocassion I will be with Aman ,though I personally do not like his questions either !!!.

And please do not make an issue of it by making unnecessary noise. Check all the posts Stuart has made on Aman's previous posts before making any comments.And please don't reply to this post as that is totally unrequired.Let the students focus on other questions than looking into people's row.
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by Ian Stewart » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:08 am
GMATSUCKER wrote:
okigbo wrote:That response was unnecessary and disrespectful. These experts take many valuable hours answering questions on this forum. If you won't follow forum rules, then I suggest you avoid coming here.

Plain and simple...
I would like to disagree with you. I have seen stuart making similar comments on Aman's post repeatedly ,also using the word suck. Aman just replied in the same language.If the experts do not follow the rules themselves , how can they expect others to follow them.I guess stuart has just got a taste of his own medicine ! Experts should not spend valuable hours constantly nagging the students.I think on this ocassion I will be with Aman ,though I personally do not like his questions either !!!.

And please do not make an issue of it by making unnecessary noise. Check all the posts Stuart has made on Aman's previous posts before making any comments.And please don't reply to this post as that is totally unrequired.Let the students focus on other questions than looking into people's row.
Hundreds of people read these posts, and they deserve to know whether they are wasting their time attempting these questions. Some practice questions are helpful in GMAT preparation, and some are entirely pointless to attempt. If Stuart hadn't said that these questions 'suck', I would have (though I likely would have used different language). It is entirely inappropriate to attack him personally for trying to help test takers focus their study on materials that will be worthwhile.
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by camilaross » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:25 am
I don't think we should waste our time with questions that are not of relative importance. I'm new here, and trying hard to study, and want to be guided in the right direction. I don't want to focus on "wrong" questions. Questions that contradict each other. You will never see this on the GMAT, then don't waste your time studying questions like this.

We are all adults here trying to get into B-School, let's act like such.

As for the experts, thank you for your time and help.

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by Osirus@VeritasPrep » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:42 am
Wow...just now reading this thread. How does one go about attacking one of the most helpful instructors on the site and not get banned...smh.
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