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by Priti » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:01 am
17). Charlotte Perkins Gilman, a late nineteenth-century feminist, called for urban apartment houses i[i]ncluding child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities.[/i]

(A) including child-care facilities and clustered suburban houses including communal eating and social facilities

(B) that included child-care facilities, and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities

(C) with child-care facilities included and for clustered suburban houses to include communal eating and social facilities

(D) that included child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities

(E) to include child-care facilities and for clustered suburban houses with communal eating and social facilities included



Correct Answer is D.
Didn't understand the answer.

Also the concept of preposition + noun + participle..

Can someone pl. explain.

Thanks,
Priti
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by deniz » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:20 am
to include.....

infinitive is not preferred on GMAT so eliminate b,c

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with communal eating ....included = preposition+noun+particple.....WRONG on GMAT

elimite c, e

left with a and d

a is non parallel with houses & facilities = apples & Oranges.....

d is the choice
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by Priti » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:32 am
Thanks Deniz...

But I still fail to understand why C & E cant be right.
What is preposition+noun+particle in C & E options.

Thankyou.
Priti
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by deniz » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:12 pm
c) with child-care facilities included


e) with communal eating and social facilities included
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by goelmohit2002 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:05 am
Reopening a old thread....

Can someone please shed some light on this "preposition + noun + participle.." rule....

Manhattan does not talk about any such rule neither OG....

Can someone please explain the reasoning behind this rule.
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by bhumika.k.shah » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:43 am
Hi,
Still waiting for someone to explain us the concept of preposition + noun + participle..

Still not clear in my head....

As said by Goelmohit, Manhattan SC guide doesnt talk about this.

Regards,
Bhumika
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by vijay_venky » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:58 am
I do not know the rule about preposition+noun+participle. But in this case I went in looking for parallelism and ended up with option D.

experts, please explain the rule...
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by Stacey Koprince » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:24 am
Received a PM asking me to respond. I'm sorry I'm just getting to your message now; I've been on vacation since 23 June.

This is one of those problems that makes me not like 1000 SC as a source.

I'm going to send you here first: https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/pre ... t3407.html

In that post, Ron discusses this "preposition + noun + participle" issue (quick answer: this isn't actually a rule) and also discusses why he doesn't like this one either...

If you're annoyed by this one, or are having trouble eliminating certain answers, I have good news: don't study this one. :)
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by tomada » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:16 pm
deniz wrote:to include.....

infinitive is not preferred on GMAT so eliminate b,c

+

with communal eating ....included = preposition+noun+particple.....WRONG on GMAT

elimite c, e

left with a and d

a is non parallel with houses & facilities = apples & Oranges.....

d is the choice
Just a comment on this reply...Is it true that using the infinitive, such as "to include", should be automatically eliminated from consideration? I don't see a problem with the phrase "called for urban apartment houses to include" if there's parallelism using "...to include" in the latter part of the sentence.

That said, I guess I'll go with Stacy's recommendation :-)
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by Stacey Koprince » Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:30 pm
There isn't a general rule not to use the infinitive, no. There are times when you do want to use the infinitive and times when you don't - depends on the sentence.
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