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550!! Shocked!! Pls help... anyone...

by Sm1520 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:36 am
550!! plz need help...advice..nythin!! can´t believe it....!

Well, heres a bit of my history... I'm not going to insert smilies or ny other "happy" thing.. coz i really dnt think its funny..

QUICK BACKGROUND:
From a commerce background..a little more than 2 yrs exp.. a non-native of English but its my second lang.. n believe am fairly good at it.. i quit my job to prepare for GMAT n have been struggling (full time) with it for d past 1.5 yrs..

GMAT:
Last October, I took the GMAT for the first time, after a 10 month toll.. but scored a meager 580(Q42 V29)..I was shattered, depressed but convinced myself that I was probably not prepared enough..This community helped me recover..n I moved on for another full time prep session starting Nov...

I had focused on my verbal in my second prep since that is what had kicked me off in my first attempt. I'd put in serious 8 hours every day for the last 6 months and was sure I had done everything I could n when I saw somewhat consistent scores, I was sure I would score somewhere around 650-700, and went in confidently for the second attempt yesterday..

I knew I could probably NOT get a 700+ if I was nervous. I felt that a 650-670 would be what I would get if all went as the prep tests.
And I do think that all was pretty normal.. (not too nervous or stressed, i slept well the night before, revised my notes.. went for the test.. n AWA was good enough...)

But, the end result was yet another horrific shock. a nightmare! 550! Even lower than my first!! I hadnt seen these scores of 500s ever since i re-started my prep. I had taken these tests under full exam conditions - in an isolated room - with AWA (which i was generally confident of, since I had score a 5.5 in my first attempt) and two 8-minute breaks. I'd share my mock tests results too..

GMAT ATTEMPT 1: 580 (Q42 V29)
1 Kaplan Premier Online--Q40,V33------29-Nov-11---580 (1st test aftr d REAL 1-DEJA-VU!)
2 Kaplan Premier Online--Q48,V23------19-Jan-11---630
3 Manhattan GMAT---------Q47,V32------28-Feb-11---650
4 Manhattan GMAT---------Q44,V34------15-Mar-11---640
5 Kaplan Premier Online--Q39,V34------25-Mar-11---620 (this was the last KAPLAN test id decided 2 take.. the questions were very messed up and some even had grammatical errors)
6 Manhattan GMAT---------Q47,V32------09-May-11---650
7 Manhattan GMAT---------Q45,V36------21-May-11---670
8 GMAT Prep1-------------Q49,V35------09-Jun-11---700
9 Manhattan GMAT---------Q42,V34------11-Jun-11---630
10 Manhattan GMAT---------Q46,V30------13-Jun-11---620
11 GMAT Prep--------------Q46,V34------16-Jun-11---650
12 Manhattan GMAT---------Q49,V29------18-Jun-11---620
13 GMAT Prep--------------Q48,V34------20-Jun-11---680

After these tests i was confident I would at least score a 650 if not the magical 7..but reality check:
GMAT ATTEMPT 2 : 550 (Q40, V29) :(

I thought the score was a joke (what are the chances of a conflict between official and unofficial scores???) Or is 580 or 550 my actual GMAT level? I don´t think so... coz that would have reflected in my mock tests. I took both my shots in different countries. Could the demography have affected the scores? How does one go LOWER than a previous attempt??

I referred to everyting considered "good" :
OG 12 (completed 3 times - 6 times including the 1st prep- with the error log, and the MGMAT OG ARCHER, referred back to my mistakes more than once and made sure i din't repeat them.)
OG QUANT REVIEW - 2ND EDITION
OG VERBAL REVIEW - 2ND EDITION
MGMAT 8 GUIDES (they were helpful but alas!)
POWERSCORE CR BIBLE (even the bible cudnt help!)
Even extra reading such as NY Times, Economists..

I almost know the answers of OGs by now. But even when I dint know them, I somehow felt that the questions in the official guides were a little too easy for the real thing. I agree that they aren't really adaptive questions but even the tough ones din't really seem too tough. The questions slowly became very familiar..there was nothing new..

In fact, I somehow feel that neither the GMATprep nor the MGMAT CATs were close to the real GMAT. The real one is tougher and very different. Is it possible that the GMAT prep questions are now outdated??? I used the version 1.2 - copyright 2005-2008. Is there a newer version of it?

Well, that was my story.. I wanna know WHAT REALLY WENT WRONG?? Is there any way to analyse the GMAT attempts? I was focused during the exam. I gave every question my best shot and I felt that the exam was not going so bad at all. The questions in quant were very different than my prep but I was sure I was tackling them well. I don't remember too many questions off it and anyway I don't really know which ones I made mistakes in. I was confident of almost 80% of my answers. I even double checked each and finished them on time. I fell a little behind in the verbal section but managed to complete it. Could that tiny delay of last 2-3 questions have caused me this big a shock? It's hard to believe.

I have no idea how to prepare for my next shot. I fail to believe that GMAT is not my cup of tea. If it can be anyone else's, it can be mine too! So, please, any advice would be much appreciated and solutions, obviously, would be useful. I do need to clear this exam.. Is it that I can subconciously not support the big deal of a GMAT on the real day???? I wish to clear off the GMAT before the format changes (June 2012?) But I need to understand what went wrong..
What scores (GMATPrep, MGMAT, KAPLAN or whatever) do I need to achieve to know whether I am ready or not? Where the ones I have been achieving too low or unrealistic?!

I understand that it ultimately boils down to what happens on THE day.. how i preform on THE day..but there must be SOME reflection of SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.. that would help me know when am I really ready?

I am thinking of taking up a job and preparing for the GMAT along with that. That is not really impossible right? Apologies for this really long story.. but.. I guess better late than never.. ! Help needed!!
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by sharmasumitn1 » Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:00 pm
Sm1520 wrote:550!! plz need help...advice..nythin!! can´t believe it....!

Well, heres a bit of my history... I'm not going to insert smilies or ny other "happy" thing.. coz i really dnt think its funny..

QUICK BACKGROUND:
From a commerce background..a little more than 2 yrs exp.. a non-native of English but its my second lang.. n believe am fairly good at it.. i quit my job to prepare for GMAT n have been struggling (full time) with it for d past 1.5 yrs..

GMAT:
Last October, I took the GMAT for the first time, after a 10 month toll.. but scored a meager 580(Q42 V29)..I was shattered, depressed but convinced myself that I was probably not prepared enough..This community helped me recover..n I moved on for another full time prep session starting Nov...

I had focused on my verbal in my second prep since that is what had kicked me off in my first attempt. I'd put in serious 8 hours every day for the last 6 months and was sure I had done everything I could n when I saw somewhat consistent scores, I was sure I would score somewhere around 650-700, and went in confidently for the second attempt yesterday..

I knew I could probably NOT get a 700+ if I was nervous. I felt that a 650-670 would be what I would get if all went as the prep tests.
And I do think that all was pretty normal.. (not too nervous or stressed, i slept well the night before, revised my notes.. went for the test.. n AWA was good enough...)

But, the end result was yet another horrific shock. a nightmare! 550! Even lower than my first!! I hadnt seen these scores of 500s ever since i re-started my prep. I had taken these tests under full exam conditions - in an isolated room - with AWA (which i was generally confident of, since I had score a 5.5 in my first attempt) and two 8-minute breaks. I'd share my mock tests results too..

GMAT ATTEMPT 1: 580 (Q42 V29)
1 Kaplan Premier Online--Q40,V33------29-Nov-11---580 (1st test aftr d REAL 1-DEJA-VU!)
2 Kaplan Premier Online--Q48,V23------19-Jan-11---630
3 Manhattan GMAT---------Q47,V32------28-Feb-11---650
4 Manhattan GMAT---------Q44,V34------15-Mar-11---640
5 Kaplan Premier Online--Q39,V34------25-Mar-11---620 (this was the last KAPLAN test id decided 2 take.. the questions were very messed up and some even had grammatical errors)
6 Manhattan GMAT---------Q47,V32------09-May-11---650
7 Manhattan GMAT---------Q45,V36------21-May-11---670
8 GMAT Prep1-------------Q49,V35------09-Jun-11---700
9 Manhattan GMAT---------Q42,V34------11-Jun-11---630
10 Manhattan GMAT---------Q46,V30------13-Jun-11---620
11 GMAT Prep--------------Q46,V34------16-Jun-11---650
12 Manhattan GMAT---------Q49,V29------18-Jun-11---620
13 GMAT Prep--------------Q48,V34------20-Jun-11---680

After these tests i was confident I would at least score a 650 if not the magical 7..but reality check:
GMAT ATTEMPT 2 : 550 (Q40, V29) :(

I thought the score was a joke (what are the chances of a conflict between official and unofficial scores???) Or is 580 or 550 my actual GMAT level? I don´t think so... coz that would have reflected in my mock tests. I took both my shots in different countries. Could the demography have affected the scores? How does one go LOWER than a previous attempt??

I referred to everyting considered "good" :
OG 12 (completed 3 times - 6 times including the 1st prep- with the error log, and the MGMAT OG ARCHER, referred back to my mistakes more than once and made sure i din't repeat them.)
OG QUANT REVIEW - 2ND EDITION
OG VERBAL REVIEW - 2ND EDITION
MGMAT 8 GUIDES (they were helpful but alas!)
POWERSCORE CR BIBLE (even the bible cudnt help!)
Even extra reading such as NY Times, Economists..

I almost know the answers of OGs by now. But even when I dint know them, I somehow felt that the questions in the official guides were a little too easy for the real thing. I agree that they aren't really adaptive questions but even the tough ones din't really seem too tough. The questions slowly became very familiar..there was nothing new..

In fact, I somehow feel that neither the GMATprep nor the MGMAT CATs were close to the real GMAT. The real one is tougher and very different. Is it possible that the GMAT prep questions are now outdated??? I used the version 1.2 - copyright 2005-2008. Is there a newer version of it?

Well, that was my story.. I wanna know WHAT REALLY WENT WRONG?? Is there any way to analyse the GMAT attempts? I was focused during the exam. I gave every question my best shot and I felt that the exam was not going so bad at all. The questions in quant were very different than my prep but I was sure I was tackling them well. I don't remember too many questions off it and anyway I don't really know which ones I made mistakes in. I was confident of almost 80% of my answers. I even double checked each and finished them on time. I fell a little behind in the verbal section but managed to complete it. Could that tiny delay of last 2-3 questions have caused me this big a shock? It's hard to believe.

I have no idea how to prepare for my next shot. I fail to believe that GMAT is not my cup of tea. If it can be anyone else's, it can be mine too! So, please, any advice would be much appreciated and solutions, obviously, would be useful. I do need to clear this exam.. Is it that I can subconciously not support the big deal of a GMAT on the real day???? I wish to clear off the GMAT before the format changes (June 2012?) But I need to understand what went wrong..
What scores (GMATPrep, MGMAT, KAPLAN or whatever) do I need to achieve to know whether I am ready or not? Where the ones I have been achieving too low or unrealistic?!

I understand that it ultimately boils down to what happens on THE day.. how i preform on THE day..but there must be SOME reflection of SOMETHING SOMEWHERE.. that would help me know when am I really ready?

I am thinking of taking up a job and preparing for the GMAT along with that. That is not really impossible right? Apologies for this really long story.. but.. I guess better late than never.. ! Help needed!!
Dude,

I too experienced the same feeling what you are feeling right now. Before i took the GMAT, I was scoring more than 700s. I took GMAT Prep multiple times and never scored less than 710. I took MGMAT and scored in the range of 640-720. I scored 640 and 670 in Kaplan CD CATs. I scored 680 on knewton free cat. However, i scored a meager 610 on the real thing. Now, this is way below than any of my mock tests. I believe the GMAT has become tougher. The verbal section has become tougher. The questions in the verbal section are very different than what you see on any prep material including OG and GMATPrep. I got two really big RC passages in my test. They were like five paragraphs each. I never got such huge passages in my preparation. I handled them well though. I was running short of time by the end of the verbal section and had to guess on 2 of the last 4-5 questions. I think i got around 3-4 of my last 5 questions wrong. I think this penalized me heavily, but upto what extent, i dont know. It is hard to believe that my verbal score dropped more than 10-15 points than the mock test score. I have just one suggestions to people who are going to take the GMAT, time yourself properly so that you don't have to guess last questions. Don't get too excited by your mock scores. The real thing is quite different.

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by Sm1520 » Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:10 am
Wow.. thanx sharmasumitn1.. Id say m glad to know there r others sharing d same dilemma as me.. :(

I wonder what's d soln to it al.. If v rnt supp to get too excited by r mock scores, how do v really know when r v ready?!?!

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by Ken Masters » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:35 am
Same experience here. I vigorously prepared for more than 4 months. I got 700+ on all MGMATs. 740 and 730 resp on gmatpreps. On the real thing I got 670. I studied harder. This time too My mock test scores were all above 700, and so I retook the exam today.........only to get 650 :(
Quant I faced was as tough as Manhattan's, while verbal was the toughest I'd ever faced. believe me kaplan's, Manhattan's and even gmatprep's verbal is no match for actual Gmat verbal. I got 2 large passages with 5 paragraphs each, 1 moderately big passage and one short passage, ensuring that I badly run out of time.

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by Toddius » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:32 pm
I thought the Manhattan tests were pretty accurate. The verbal is probably a little easier. I've always heard that while it's relatively easy to improve on the quant side, that it's tough to move your verbal too much. I'm not sure why that would be.

I performed pretty closely in line with my MGMAT tests.

Very sorry that happened to you. That sucks. Where are you hoping to go? What's the avg score there?

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by Sm1520 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:17 am
@ Ken Masters..
Thanks for sharing your experience.. did u figure out any way to 2 recoup?? Its shocking...I just got my AWA sore...a scaled score of 6!! lol.. the difference is uncanny

@ Toddius.. thanx.. i plan to take it agn...dnt bel ny univs avg score wud b as low as tis...

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by sharmasumitn1 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:40 am
Sm1520 wrote:@ Ken Masters..
Thanks for sharing your experience.. did u figure out any way to 2 recoup?? Its shocking...I just got my AWA sore...a scaled score of 6!! lol.. the difference is uncanny

@ Toddius.. thanx.. i plan to take it agn...dnt bel ny univs avg score wud b as low as tis...
I too got AWA score 6!!!

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by Sm1520 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:07 am
I too got AWA score 6!!!
mkes one wnder doesnt it!
r u planning to retake the test? if you dont mind... can you share ur approach for the next attempt?

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by sharmasumitn1 » Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:21 am
Sm1520 wrote:
I too got AWA score 6!!!
mkes one wnder doesnt it!
r u planning to retake the test? if you dont mind... can you share ur approach for the next attempt?
Yeah, poor verbal score is not an accurate indicator of one's verbal ability. I have seen people with limited verbal ability score awesome score in verbal. The verbal section is probably one of the trickiest to tackle. The GMAT punishes you heavily for not properly handling the section compared to Quant section. If you make mistakes in row, you are doomes. And thats even worse if you make consecutive mistakes by the end of the test. To ace the verbal section, device a strategy and stick with it. Focus on the timing strategy. It is very important to set the timing right. In my experience, i had to rush through the last 4-5 questions as i got stuck on one and spent a lot of time on it. It cost me heavily. I scored a meager 27 on verbal score, which is the least in any of mock test. I have never scored in 20's. GMAT verbal is definitely tougher than the OG or GMATPrep or for that matter any other Mock test. The RC passages are huge and the question stems are not straight forward. I got two huge RC passages each with five paragraphs. I thought i handled them well, but one can not be 100% sure about the answers.

I am definitely going to take GMAT again, as this pathetic score is not going to help my in any way. I am going to focus mainly on my timing strategy. I am going to practice a lot of full length tests this time. I have bought GMATClub test for quant practice. I will re-do the Kaplan 800 this time for verbal practice. Apart from these sources, i am planning to do the GMAT Paper tests and GMATPrep questions as i have exhausted all other official sources.

For the practice tests, i am planning to do the kaplan CD CATs, Veritas Free, Grockit, Princeton, PowerPrep etc ...

What is your strategy?