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by fleetkid » Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:41 am
Hi All,
G Day is 1 Oct 2009. One month from now.

Took 3 Kaplan tests in August:
Test 1: 630
Test 2: 560
Test 3: 600
Was really disappointed.

Then prepared for two weeks and took my first Power Prep test today:
Score:
Overall 720 (Q49,V40)

Q - 11/37 Incorrect
V - 9/41 Incorrect (About 5 wrong in SC alone)

Made some silly mistake in Quants. Couldn't proceed with method in 2-3 Probs.

Does this reflect my actual GMAT score?

I am targeting around 750.

At this point I have reviewed all the basic Math and Verbal Materials. Confident in CR.
Weakness:
SC
RC

My current strategy for the 1 month left:

1. Manhattan SC Book
2. OG 11 - Verbal and Math full
3. Everyday 30 SCs, 20 CRs and 4 RCs from 1000 Series questions and 20 PS and 20 DS questions
4. Take a practice test once or twice a week

Please advise if I need to change my current strategy (keep practising and take about 7 Practice tests).

Also please advise about AWA.
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by DanaJ » Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:19 am
I think you strategy is pretty solid. I like the way you are targeting your weaknesses, it's a really smart thing to do, seen as how you're already at a decent level. I'm not sure if a 720 in PowerPrep (it's the previous version of GMATprep) is 100% representative of your current level, since I understand that it might be a little bit too easy as compared to the general level of the current GMAT. However, I'd say you are around 680-700 at least, so a 50 point increase will most certainly be in your reach.

However, I'm not sure if the 1000 SC/RC/CR series are that good. I know the SC questions are often discussed on this forum, since some of their answers are debatable. Now, while an SC question is not that hard to write, CR and RC questions require a lot of talent. This is the reason I wouldn't be 100% confident in the 1000 series, since they're a bunch of unofficial documents. If you need more CR and RC practice, I suggest you use LSAT sets (especially since you are already at a pretty decent level). I've attached two LSAT sets in this post. I think you might find them useful, since you've got about 100 CR and 50 RC.

I can't say SC is my strongest point, but it's a different story for RC. In all the GMATprep tests I've taken, I have 0 mistakes in RC. IMHO, RC and CR are not that different: since you're strong in CR, I recommend you treat RC as a longer CR. One tip would be to make yourself believe that you're genuinely interested in the topic. Honestly, if you just read one official RC without the "this is a test" mentality, you'll see how well it is written, how the ideas flow evenly. This was even clearer to me after I went through the CR Bible, which IMHO is a great resource for both CR and RC.

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by fleetkid » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:38 am
Thanks a lot man.

And the test I took was GPRep only. I misquoted.

Will follow your pointers.

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by DanaJ » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:31 am
Oh OK. If it's GMATprep, then that's even better. I got a 760 just a little bit before I took my test, so I believe GMATprep is a really good indicator of your current level.

Oh and BTW, I'm not a man :)

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by fleetkid » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:17 am
Oops sorry about that :D

My next post will be on 17th Sep, once I take my GPrep 2. Will need your pointers.

Thanks again...

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kaplan Vs GmatPrep

by satish_iitg » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:50 am
I have my G date on 23rd Sep. I got 710 in my GmatPrep But 620 in Kaplan....

How can i Interpret these scores..?

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by fleetkid » Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:32 pm
From the people who have taken GMAT I learnt that we should not really worry about Kaplan scores.

Use the link for score conversion:

https://gmatclub.com/gmat-score-estimate/

PM me once you take your test on 23rd. Will need your inputs.

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750 in GPrep 2 :)

by fleetkid » Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:14 pm
Hi,

Took my second G Prep 2006 Test (G Prep 2009 yet to go).
Got a satisfying 750 (Q 50, V 41).

But when I was taking the test I was not 100 % confident with some of the answers I chose. Yet most of them turned out to be right. Is this a bad sign ?


19 Days to G - Day. What do I have to do to get the same score on G-Day. Is it enough if I just continue to practise the OG 11 supplementary books and G MAT Paper sets ?

If I have already covered OG 11 should I get OG 12 ?

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by DanaJ » Fri Sep 11, 2009 12:43 am
If you have such "bad feelings" I say invest more time in the types of questions that cause such sensations.

The quant and verbal supplements are good practice, but sadly do not provide challenging problems, which you should be working on now. IMHO you should focus on your weaknesses while still doing a few problems from the supplements. I say search for keywords on this forum to get whatever you need (i.e. "permutation" or "circle").

I do not think there's any value in buying the OG 12.

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by fleetkid » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:23 am
Thanks again. Will do as you suggest.

M next post will be on G-Day :)

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by siddarthreddy1488 » Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:26 am
I just took a gmatprep test and i got a 710.although im happy with my score, i made 12 mistakes in quant and 9 in verbal.Do u think its a corect reflection of my score?

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by fleetkid » Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:30 am
Hi,

You can roughly say it is +or- 30 (considering unpredictable conditions like tougher problems, your mental state on G-Day, etc) .

Try to work on the question types you went wrong.

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by Stacey Koprince » Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:11 am
Received a PM asking me to reply. I have been traveling and haven't been on BTG for several weeks. Sorry I haven't replied yet.

Some good advice already upthread. I'll comment on your original post:

1) FYI - scoring is not based on percentage correct, so focusing on that metric will not tell you much. As you get better, you still get a similar number of questions wrong (except at the very highest end of the test) - what changes is the difficulty level of the questions you're getting right.

2) You'll always make *some* careless mistakes, but it is important to try to minimize them as much as possible. Keep an error log (if you don't already) in which you note down what the mistake was (or mistakes were, if there were multiple), WHY you made the mistake, and what habits you need to make or break in order to minimize the chances of repeating that mistake in future.

3) As Dana said above, PowerPrep is the older version of GMATPrep and is not quite as valid as GMATPrep, though PP is still a pretty good indicator. GP has about a +/- 30 point standard deviation. PP will be a bit higher than that. Also, in order to have a valid comparison score, it is CRITICAL that you take the test under full official conditions (do both essays, take only 8 minute breaks between sections, etc). If you don't, then your score is likely inflated (eg, skipping an essay or two gives you a major advantage, as does taking a longer break).

If SC is a weakness, then yes, you need something that will teach you SC, so sounds like you've already got a plan for that. You mention RC as a weakness, but you don't mention what you're going to use to get better at RC. Just doing practice problems is not enough - you need something that actually teaches you how to get better at questions of that type (especially if you're going for a 750!). OG also isn't enough, unfortunately - although OG contains the best practice problems available, the explanation don't do much to teach you how to get better.

So, if you haven't already, get yourself an RC resource (book or whatever, likely from a GMAT test prep company, because that's who teaches you how to get better!).

4) You seem very focused on the quantity of what you're going to do - number of problems, number of tests, etc. It's better to focus on the quality of your learning. If you don't know what you need to know, then doing more problems will help only marginally - but it won't help you make a big difference in your score. So concentrate instead on what you need to learn: grammar rules, methodology for reading RC passages, methodology for answering SC and RC questions, comprehension on RC passages, ability to spot (and eliminate!) tempting wrong answers, ability to avoid mistakenly dismissing the correct answer, etc.

Most of the above should come from our SC book and whatever book you choose for RC (we have a book for that, too, but you should ask around or browse in a store yourself to find what works best for you).

On the wrong answer analysis, ask yourself (even if you got the question right):
- why was the wrong answer so tempting? why did it look like it might be right? (be as explicit as possible)
- why was it actually wrong? what specific words indicate that it is wrong and how did I overlook those clues the first time?
- why did the right answer seem wrong? what made it so tempting to cross off the right answer? why were those things actually okay - what was my error in thinking that they were wrong?
- why was it actually right?

5) Finally, CAT exams are really good for (a) figuring out where you're scoring right now, (b) practicing stamina, and (c) analyzing your strengths and weaknesses. The actual act of just taking the exam is NOT so useful for improving. It's what you do with the test results / between tests that helps you to improve. This is back to that quantity vs. quality thing again. Quality study involves making significant improvement before taking another practice test to gauge your performance. If you take another practice test before you've done significant work, the practice test results don't tell you much (and you end up getting frustrated because you don't see a big change in your score).

I don't recommend taking a practice test more than once a week (and sometimes even that is too frequent!). It takes at least a week (and usually longer) to see any kind of measurable improvement.

p.s. Re: AWA, do you have a specific question about it? In general, always do the essays on practice tests (you need to practice stamina as well). Also, know exactly what you need to do on AWA so that you can write the essays with minimal energy / brain power. Save your energy for the main event!
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by fleetkid » Wed Sep 16, 2009 1:16 am
Hi Stacey,

Thanks a lot for your detailed reply.
Will focus more on learning. Last week scored a 750 in G-Prep Test. Hope that will reflect on G-Day. :)

For AWA, I have been focusing on my own essay templates and planning to write at least 10 essays each before G-Day.

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Last post before G-Day

by fleetkid » Sun Sep 27, 2009 8:36 pm
Hi Dana,

Your suggestions have been very helpful. Took Test 1 in GMAT Prep 2009 CD with Essays. Got a 760.

Only two more days until G-Day. Am a bit tensed.
I have to make a choice between the following strategies. What is your opinion ?

Strategy 1:
Go through all the mistakes made across all the Prep materials/ practice tests used. Take the second GMAT Prep the day before G-Day.

Strategy 2:
Do not go through all the errors made. Take more practice problems every day. Review the notes made. Do not take the GMAT Prep test.

Or should I combine the two strategies with some changes?

Also what are the possible surprises on G-Day I have to be prepared for (to reproduce the 760)...