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Some Helpful DS Advice

by beatthegmat » Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:28 pm
I came across this post in some forum last year. I hope this advice is as helpful to you as it was to me:

DS is definitely an acquired taste... It's really important, though. On my exam I got about 50% DS. Kaplan claims it's about 1/3, so maybe quite a few of mine were experimental - still, even 1/3 represents a large chunk of your quant score!

I had trouble with DS at first, too, but got better at it with practice. I don't know where you are in your prep, but the Kaplan books (both the general GMAT book and the Math workbook) have some specific DS strategies:
1. Focus on the question stem.
2. Look at each statement separately.
3. Look at both statements in combination.

I find that the most important thing is to keep all the pieces separate - what's given in the stem vs. each of the two statements. Most careless errors on DS come when you subconsciously carry over some info from statement 1 to statement 2 (i.e. you're not actually looking at statement 2 on its own).

Obviously, quite apart from the unusual question format, you also need to know the content on which the question is based. That's where it helps to really know your number properties, divisibility, exponents, inequalities etc.

Also, on the more difficult DS questions, there is often some type of trap for the unwary. For example, most people know that if you can set up two linear equations with two unknowns, you can solve for both variables. So the natural instinct when each of the statements can be translated into an equation is to assume that the answer must be C. However, sometimes the two equations may not be independent of each other (e.g. x + 2y = 3 and 2x + 4y = 6, which are just two versions of the same equation).

At other times, the question stem may actually ask for a sum (e.g. a+b), and even though there are two variables, a single equation (e.g. 4a + 4b = 20) may be sufficient, since you're only asked to find the sum, not the individual values of a and b.

Finally, another common DS trap occurs with Yes/No questions, for example "Is x divisible by 2?". The trick here is that in DS, you are supposed to determine whether the question can be definitively answered based on the given info. So if statement 1 says "X is odd", we can in fact answer the question (in this case, the answer is "no"). So in a Yes/No question, it doesn't matter whether the answer turns out to be Yes or No - all that matters is whether the given info is sufficient to allow you to find the answer.

The best way to improve DS is really just to understand the basic mechanics, read the question and statements VERY carefully, beware of the traps, and then practice, practice, practice. I went through all the DS questions in OG, then again through all the ones I found problematic, and finally a third round on the ones I STILL had problems with. In my debriefing post there is a link where you can download the OG practice grid I used. It really helps if you can figure out what specific aspects are giving you problems and what types of errors you tend to make - that's how I became aware of the things I mentioned above.
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Some more good advice

by beatthegmat » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:43 pm
Here's another great DS strategy message I found:

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Yup, the Data Sufficiency questions can be a *****! Some advice:

- With study, you can expect signifigant improvement with DS simply because none of us have any experience with them before prepping for the GMAT. But make sure you are using a good stragegy for them - refer to Kaplan or Princeton Review books on how to tackle DS.

- As always, once you have a good strategy worked out, practice on the DS section of the OG. Time permitting, try to do all the DS questions in the OG, but don't completely neglect the other sections.

- I think one of the keys to doing the quant questions is in how you use the scratch paper provided. When you practice the DS questions in the OG, write down as much as you need to in order to keep track of your progress in doing the question. For example, if you have decided that statement one is sufficient, make a note of this on the paper. As you are working on statement two, you may forget what you figured out for statement one - in fact, you should completely forget about one when working on two. Once you have worked out two, make a note of it also. Now you can look at the results of one and two, they are either both sufficient by themselves, so you are finished, or you have to see if together they are enough.

You will naturally need to use the scratch paper to make calculations, lists or other things that will help you solve DS problems.

- If you feel your math is still rusty, perhaps you should take a few hours and brush up on it. Actaully, as you do the DS questions, keep a log of the questions you did wrong and why. Review the log to spot your weaknesses. Perhaps you are making calculation errors, misunderstanding the questions, losing track of the question, or not understanding a particular math term (e.g. postive integers do not include 0). Work on eliminating these weaknesses.

- Learn when to guess on a DS problem when you are spending too much time on it. Remember that even if you determined the sufficiency of at least one of the statements, this narrows the choices and thus you have made progress on solving it. Given decent luck, you will get "partial credit" overall for all the questions that you had to make a "narrowed down" guess at.
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good info

by dkiran01 » Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:36 am
Hey thanks.. this will be really helpful.

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by k_suraj786 » Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:59 am
Hello Kiran,

From where can I download the OG practice grid ?

I would be greatful.

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by beatthegmat » Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:33 pm
Check out these two posts:

https://www.beatthegmat.com/viewtopic.php?t=82
https://www.beatthegmat.com/viewtopic.php?t=68

I hope one of these posts has what you are looking for. Best of luck!
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by humblewinner » Tue May 02, 2006 11:06 am
thanks Eric, Great post !

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DS tips

by mukul » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:28 pm
Most of the basics have been covered by Eric....its a great post...I would suggest each one of you to read it and implement it....

There are no shortcuts in DS...you have to read the question...and the two statements in the manner Eric has given.

Apart from all this...the single most thing which will help you will be :

Spotting your mistakes, make a list of them and then not make them again. This will have many iterations and you will see yourself improve...

Trust me...my maths is good and still I fumbled at DS. Not because of my maths skills but because of a clouded and biased mind which all of us have. We tend to assume..

Look out for:

yes/no questions....eithe is sufficient..read eric's post
inequalities...
watch out for points where equality doesnt holds... x > 3 doesnt means x can be 3...
watch out for fractions....higher denominator means lower values....but in negaticve fractions...higher denominator means higher values...

powers...
squaring a fraction devaluates it...cubing..even more..
but a negative fraction on squaring gets bigger....but on cubing lowers....things like that

leran how mod values are dealt with..
how negative cross multiplications are done with inequalities

logarithms...
i do it with help of graphs....
properties of bases...

composite and prime nos...clubbed with even and odd concepts..
e.g. is the only no. prime and even...

basically you will know all the concepts when you are done with all types of DS questions...make a grid and write down all mistakes...

Kaplan is very gud for DS...I did kaplan 800 and it was fabulous.

hope it helps and adds something to eric's awesome post.

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by reachbinnie » Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:39 am
Nice posts guys!! Thanks!! :D