I Now Take Serious Issue

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I Now Take Serious Issue

by bladeski » Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:40 am
I just completed a CAT with Manhattan's system and feel the need to disclose some information to students preparing for their test as I feel I just wasted 3 hours of my time as I near my test date. I have read numerous posts and reviewed multiple scoring results and in no way are the "off brand" CAT's indicative of performance on the actual test. Do not assume positively or negatively that a score on one of these tests will indicate your results come test day. The tests' algorithms are a complete shot in the dark and subsequently the question progression equally fails, rendering the scoring useless. If your intentions are to work on timing, the tests may carry value, but the quality and similarity of the questions are mediocre at best. Anyone who has studied for this test, would easily decipher between 5 OG questions and 5 "off brand" questions. That being said, pounding multiple CAT's may hurt your score in the long run, many will attest that the best study material is found within Official Guides and repetition of said material. As I read student's debriefings I notice a trend that those who score well on the official material 9 times out of 10 score well on the test. Alternatively, students who score well on Kaplan, Manhattan, Princeton, etc often return in shock as their scores are all over the place. Just food for thought, whereas I have yet to see someone who scored well on the Offical CAT I or II sans repeat ever return in dismay. The other company's books are another story as they offer insight, tricks, and strategy especially MGMAT's isolated guides... but the amount of time taking their CATS IMHO is preparing you for disappointment or discouragement.
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by harsh.champ » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:03 am
bladeski wrote:I just completed a CAT with Manhattan's system and feel the need to disclose some information to students preparing for their test as I feel I just wasted 3 hours of my time as I near my test date. I have read numerous posts and reviewed multiple scoring results and in no way are the "off brand" CAT's indicative of performance on the actual test. Do not assume positively or negatively that a score on one of these tests will indicate your results come test day. The tests' algorithms are a complete shot in the dark and subsequently the question progression equally fails, rendering the scoring useless. If your intentions are to work on timing, the tests may carry value, but the quality and similarity of the questions are mediocre at best. Anyone who has studied for this test, would easily decipher between 5 OG questions and 5 "off brand" questions. That being said, pounding multiple CAT's may hurt your score in the long run, many will attest that the best study material is found within Official Guides and repetition of said material. As I read student's debriefings I notice a trend that those who score well on the official material 9 times out of 10 score well on the test. Alternatively, students who score well on Kaplan, Manhattan, Princeton, etc often return in shock as their scores are all over the place. Just food for thought, whereas I have yet to see someone who scored well on the Offical CAT I or II sans repeat ever return in dismay. The other company's books are another story as they offer insight, tricks, and strategy especially MGMAT's isolated guides... but the amount of time taking their CATS IMHO is preparing you for disappointment or discouragement.
Hey bladeski,
Thanks for sharing your honest opinion wid the community.But I was wondering if you can explain in some detail about the flaws??
I was going to buy a test course but am very confused now.
Can you throw some light as to which factors are okay to consider as a representative of GMATand which factors we shouldn't??
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by bladeski » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:00 pm
My main point is that if you have not exhausted every OG retired question available in the three books (OG 12, OG Quant, OG Verbal) there is no use engaging in any other material. I wish this advice was available (or that I found it) before I wasted so much time on other material. Unless you are referencing other material to learn a concept that is not explained sufficiently by the OG (i.e. Manhattan SC) or to get a nice starter overview the books and CATS could be a detrimental waste of time.

The other companies generally offer CATS to supplement material. The CAT is unique, not only does it accommodate the test takers ability, but also that ability is converted into a score at the end of each section (not the amount of correct or incorrect). Therefore, the entire test's integrity lies in determining one's ability. I believe that the test preparing companies have student's best interests in mind, they just don't have the ability to re-create an accurate depiction of a test therefore rendering them useless when gauging one's status with respect to scoring. A perfect example is with Manhattan as you navigate through the test you may get (4) 700-800 level questions correct; however, if you incorrectly answer the next 2 out of 3, they may give you a 300-500 level question... the actual GMAT would never do this because they already know your range and would be looking to home in on your specific score.

Hope this helps, if you have a more specific question I will be more than happy to give my best.[/u]