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by jitsy » Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:16 pm
Hi I have doubts in the following 3 questions. A bit of help would be greatly appreciated.

1. As rare as something becomes, be it a baseball card
or a musical recording or a postage stamp, the more
avidly it is sought by collectors .

(A) As rare as something becomes, be it
(B) As rare as something becomes, whether it is
(C) As something becomes rarer and rarer, like
(D) The rarer something becomes, like
(E) The rarer something becomes, whether it is


Guys, option D or E.

In D, the usage of 'like' is incorrect, since 'like' is used to compare 2 nouns
In E, the usage of 'whether' is incorrect, since 'whether' is
used when there can be only 2 options, e.g., "I didnt know whether he'll go"

Pls help.





2. Proponents of artificial intelligence say they will be able to make computers that can
understand English and other human languages, recognize objects, and reason as an
expert does-computers that will be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns,
deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these.

(A) as an expert does-computers that will be used to diagnose equipment
breakdowns, deciding whether to authorize a loan, or other purposes such as these
(B) as an expert does, which may be used for purposes such as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(C) like an expert-computers that will be used for such purposes as diagnosing
equipment breakdowns or deciding whether to authorize a loan
(D) like an expert, the use of which would be for purposes like the diagnosis of
equipment breakdowns or the decision whether or not a loan should be
authorized
(E) like an expert, to be used to diagnose equipment breakdowns, deciding
whether to authorize a loan or not, or the like

Can anyone explain why is C the correct answer?

Since we're comparing actions (the verb 'reason') I would eliminate C, D & E (since they use like and not as) and then select A as the right answer. However, thats not the right answer.

Pls explain.





3. His studies of ice-polished rocks in his Alpine homeland, far outside the range of present-day glaciers, led Louis Agassiz in 1837 to propose the concept of an age in which great ice sheets had existed in what are now temperate areas

(A) in which great ice sheets had existed in what are now temperate areas
(B) in which great ice sheets existed in what are now temperate areas
(C) when great ice sheets existed where there were areas now temperate
(D) when great ice sheets had existed in current temperate areas
(E) when great ice sheets existed in areas now that are temperate

Can anyone tell me why we use 'in which' and not 'when' here (since we are referring to a pt. of time) and why we dont use past perfect tense as in option D (since the age we talk about is even before another time mentioned, the time when he proposed the concept?)
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by Ravish » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:50 pm
1) E) The word 'whether' can be used to discuss 2 OR MORE alternatives.

2) This is from the verbal supplement (2nd edition). The reason A is incorrect is because it violates 'Parallelism' - DIAGNOSE equipment breakdown DECIDING whether to authorize a loan.

B would be a close contender but the use of the word 'which' is ambiguous and does not touch the correct subject.

In C, the parallelism rule is met and there is no ambiguity.


3) This one is a tricky one but i go with B . I don't think the word 'When' is what is incorrect in C, D and E rather, it is the description of the temperate areas that make the choices incorrect.

C) 'where there were' means that the areas disappeared (incorrect)

D) The word 'Had' also indicates that the areas are no longer there. Same reason we eliminated A

E) 'Areas now that are temperate' didn't make sense to me.


What are the OA's ?

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by Rezinka » Fri Dec 24, 2010 11:24 pm
1 : E
The rarer sounds better than as rare as. It is more concise and clear. So, A, B, C eliminated. Between D & E, I chose E because that is the intended meaning.

2 : Even I was very confused.

3 : B
I think we're using in which because we are talking about things occurring then and not the time period.
Also, had existed is definitely wrong because we do not have 2 actions that iccur one after the other.

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by jitsy » Sat Dec 25, 2010 3:40 am
Thanks a lot Ravish & Rezinka.

1. Thanks, the use of whether for 2 or more alternatives is what I didnt know. Would have gone with the correct ans otherwise.

2. Thanks Ravish for the explanation. But my question of 'like' vs 'as' remains unanswered. In general, what Ive been noticing is that, as I did in this question, in a few others, I eliminated 3 options because I saw an evil in them, and out of the remaining 2 i went with one (even though i saw a little evil in the ans), thinking this is the lesser evil, but realizing later that I had actually eliminated the lesser evil with the 3 options, and gone with the bigger one in the answer.

E.g. in this ques, I eliminated the 3 options with 'like', thinking they CANNOT be right in any case. and went with B, seeing the incorrect usage of 'which' and not caring to read all of A, assuming that A will be right (I know not reading is not advisable, I would have spotted parallelism otherwise).

I have to do this because if I try to spot ALL the evils and decide which ones are smaller and which ones are bigger, I end up taking more than one minute per ques.

Obviously, I mean this happens for a few questions, not all. But if it does happen, I end up with 2-3 incorrect ans out of 13-14

Any idea how to overcome this, just in case any of you faced it too.

3. Alright, I was wrong about 'in which' vs 'when'. Here they can be used interchangeably. But Im not convinced abt the use of 'had' in D. To me, 'had existed' correctly says in places that are now temperate (no ice sheets), ice sheets HAD existed (and not that the places themselves HAD existed and are not there now). And we use past perfect since simple past tense is already used to say he proposed a concept and for the ice sheets, he mentions a time even further back in the past. Sorry, but could one of you please elaborate, where I'm going wrong.

Really appreciate the help!!

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by Rezinka » Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:22 am
For had been :

There had been a temple in the place I am standing now.
There was a temple in the place I am standing now.

B is correct. Only one thing is in the past. Moreover, the order is not important here.

The house had been burnt by the time I reached.
The house was burnt by the time I reached.

2 actions in past :
First - house burnt
Second - I reached
So, A is correct. It indicates that I reached after the house burnt down.

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by jitsy » Sat Dec 25, 2010 4:47 am
Thanks Rezinka. Totally agree with you and no doubts there.

Would like to use your second example to understand the problem

2 actions in past :
First - ice sheets HAD existed
Second - the studies 'led' him to propose in 1837

So, A is correct. It indicates that the studies led him to propose in 1837 (also in the past), years after the ice sheets had existed.

So doesnt this exactly fit into your second example? This this will help us reach on the same page.

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by Rezinka » Sat Dec 25, 2010 6:03 am
I am no expert but this is what I think :
The two events need to be related.

actions in past :
First - ice sheets HAD existed
Second - the studies 'led' him to propose in 1837

These events are not related. The things we can compare are :
1. existence of ice sheets
2. they are temperate areas now

These clearly do not require had as what I mentioned in the post above.

Hope it helps..!!

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