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680 and yet feeling screwed - need advice

by MarsellusW » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:48 am
A long time reader, MBA aspirer (Columbia, Said, LBS, INSEAD) and a victim of today speaking here...

I took the dreaded GMAT CAT today and even though I scored a 680 (Q49/V33), I feel screwed and have no idea what I should do.

My text prep was Kaplan's GMAT 800, Princeton Reviews Crack The GMAT 2006 Edition and the Official Guide's Newest Edition. I scored in the range 700-760 for all my prep tests and my verbal score has never fallen below 40. And now this... 33 at the actual exam. I can't believe it. It was like a slap in the face. Everything went fine and then I saw the score report and felt like fainting.

The other parts of my story:
1. I am Hungarian and as an international student I must take the TOEFL, too, which I did and scored 115 out of 120 last month (Writing 29/30, Reading 30/30). That's pretty good and it should prove my verbal skills. But... I guess my low verbal score on the GMAT can still be a setback.
2. Even though I know my essays will be scored either 5.5 or 6.0, I don't know whether this outweighs the 33 points. Does anybody have exparience with this situation?
3. To complicate the situation, my GPA is rather low at 2.7. It's from the best university in the region, still I think it's low.
4. I thought I'd balance the GPA with the GMAT, but somehow I think that 680 points aren't enough. I have no idea how flexible schools with international students are, I don't want to stretch my application to the limit.
5. I have no idea what went wrong, since on all the practice tests (GMAC, Princeton, Kaplan) I took, my verbal score was always above 40. I had problems only with Critical Reasoning, but that was handled, too. And today was not different from the other days. I felt like I answered the same number of questions right. I thought I'd fall under the table when I saw my score report. 33 seemed unbelievable.

All in all I feel that I'm screwed. I think (but correct me if I'm wrong) that 680 points would be enough, if the composition was Q41/V40 or Q42/V39. But not like this. A 16 point gap between math and verbal is just too much, given the other things.

I'm quite desperate at the moment and I'm actually thinking about retaking the test. But before I schedule another appointment, I'd like to know what you think. Thanks in advance and good luck everyone!
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by VP_Jim » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:48 am
It sounds like you are a good candidate for a retest. It certainly can't hurt - virtually all schools only look at the higher score if you've taken the GMAT twice. Did you take the GMAT Prep tests? Those tend to be very accurate, and if you were scoring in the 40s on those and got low 30s on the real GMAT, there's a good chance the low score was a fluke.

That said, a 680 is certainly a fine score. I've had multiple students get accepted to top schools (Harvard, Stanford, Michigan, and Haas come to mind) with 680-ish scores. Plus, it's better to have a high quant and low verbal than vice versa.

My advice is to take a couple weeks off, do some more verbal studying, and give the GMAT another go. If you score a 680 again, you'll know that the score was accurate, and that it's still sufficient for admission to a top program as long as your other factors are good. Yes, the GPA is a little low, but that can be overcome by a unique background and strong work experience.
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by MarsellusW » Thu Nov 27, 2008 1:26 pm
VP_Jim wrote:It sounds like you are a good candidate for a retest. It certainly can't hurt - virtually all schools only look at the higher score if you've taken the GMAT twice. Did you take the GMAT Prep tests? Those tend to be very accurate, and if you were scoring in the 40s on those and got low 30s on the real GMAT, there's a good chance the low score was a fluke.

That said, a 680 is certainly a fine score. I've had multiple students get accepted to top schools (Harvard, Stanford, Michigan, and Haas come to mind) with 680-ish scores. Plus, it's better to have a high quant and low verbal than vice versa.

My advice is to take a couple weeks off, do some more verbal studying, and give the GMAT another go. If you score a 680 again, you'll know that the score was accurate, and that it's still sufficient for admission to a top program as long as your other factors are good. Yes, the GPA is a little low, but that can be overcome by a unique background and strong work experience.
Hi Jim,

Thanks for your answer and yes, you're probably right.

9 hours have passed since the end of my exam and now I start to see things clearer. I know that from the two Jekyll/Hyde situations mine is still the better one with the higher quant score, yet I still feel I have to compensate for the 2.7 GPA with a score above 700. A little verbal practice and another exam can't hurt.

I know and I feel that a score above 700 is in me and honestly I have no idea about what could have gone wrong today with all the practice I've done.

I did these tests:
GMAT PREP CAT 1 670
Princeton CAT 720
GMAT PREP CAT 2 720
KAPLAN CAT 700
6 GMAT Paper Tests 710, 2x 720, 2x 730 and 760

Through all these, my verbal score never once was below 40, it stayed constantly in the 41-44 range, with math being the same or a bit higher. One thing is for sure: I know I can beat the math part and all I have to concentrate on is the verbal practice.

Do you think I could benefit from coursework? I'm thinking about enrolling in a 1-week intensive course that deals only with the verbal part. Maybe there I will be able to see what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks again,
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by VP_Jim » Thu Nov 27, 2008 2:20 pm
Now that you give your score breakdown, I have some more to add:

1. Paper tests are worthless. The CAT aspect of the GMAT is the most important part of the test, and that isn't reflected when taking the GMAT on paper. Don't even think about those scores.

2. The margin of error on the GMAT is +/- 30 points or so, and even more on practice tests, so you're in the range you should be in. If you take the GMAT again without further study, there's a good chance you might get anywhere from a 640 to a 720.

3. A weeklong intensive course couldn't hurt! When my students want to take the test again, I always ask: how are you going to approach it differently this time? If you didn't take a prep course before, that might be the difference that pushes you over 700.

4. You mention that your math and verbal scores are similar. Note that, percentile-wise, a 40 on verbal is MUCH higher than a 40 on quant. You might benefit from further quant study, as well.

Good luck!
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