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by Ali Tariq » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:26 am
sagarock wrote:And my other doubts are whether we have to check the sentence when ing modifier modifying nouni.e it is acting as adjective.for ex-
1.rising inventories,if not accompanied by sales,can lead to...
2.declining values of houses have brought ...
3.growing plants lot of attention from the gardener.
rising inventories,if not accompanied by sales,can lead to.
inventories were rising
perfectly fine.
There is no ambiguity.
rising describes state (of inventories) and not action. Therefore, there is no action within verbing to go back to subject.
Earlier, the inventory had, say, 5 items
at that time when this statement was written, it had, say, 15 items.
What was the state of inventories at that time when this statement was written?
They kept this upward trend
2.declining values of houses have brought ...
values were declining.
perfectly fine.
There is no ambiguity.
declining describes state (of values)and not action. Therefore, there is no action within verbing to go back to subject.
Earlier, the values were high.
at that time when this statement was written, they were low .
What was the state of values at that time when this statement was written?
They kept this downward trend.
3.growing plants attract lot of attention from the gardener
plants were growing.
perfectly fine.
There is no ambiguity.
growing describes (state of plants) and not action. Therefore, there is no action within verbing to go back to subject.
Earlier, plants were ,say, 1 meter in height.
at that time when this statement was written, they were ,say, 2 meter in height .
What was the state of plants at that time when this statement was written?
They kept this upward trend.
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by Ali Tariq » Thu Feb 09, 2017 3:57 am
The state has proposed new rules that would set minimum staffing levels for nurses, rules intended to ensure that at least one nurse is assigned for every four patients put through triage in a hospital emergency room.

A. rules intended to ensure that at least one nurse is assigned for every four patients put through triage in a hospital emergency room
B. rules with the intent of ensuring one nurse at least to be assigned for every four patients to be put through triage in a hospital emergency room
C. rules intending to ensure at least one nurse is assigned for every four patients in a hospital emergency room put through triage
D. with the intent of ensuring that at least one nurse should be assigned for every four patients in a hospital emergency room that are put through triage
E. and this is intended to ensure one nurse at least to be assigned for every four patients put through triage in a hospital emergency room
rules were inteding.
Not fine.
nonsensical, in all interpretations.

THERE IS NO WAY for intending to describe the state of rules
i.e,
What was the state of rules at that time when this statement was written?
rules were in the state of intending.
They kept that state.

earlier, they were ,say,not intending.
At that time when this statement was written, they were intending
i.e
At that time when this statement was written, they were still in that state (state of intending).
Nonsensical.
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by Ali Tariq » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:04 am
Because she knew many of the leaders of colonial America and the American Revolution personally, Mercy Otis Warren was continually at or near the center of political events from 1765 to 1789, a vantage point combining with her talent for writing to make her one of the most valuable historians of the era

(A) a vantage point combining with her talent for writing to make

(B) a vantage point, when combined with her talent for writing, that made

(C) a vantage point that combined with her talent for writing, and it made

(D) and this vantage point, which combined with her talent for writing to make

(E) and this vantage point, combined with her talent for writing, made
vantage point was combining.
Not fine.
nonsensical, in all interpretations.

THERE IS NO WAY for combining to describe the state of vantage point
i.e,
What was the state of vantage point at that time when this statement was written?
vantage point was in the state of combining.
It kept that state.

earlier, it was ,say,not combining.
At that time when this statement was written, it was combining
i.e
At that time when this statement was written, it was still in that state (state of combining).
Nonsensical.
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by Ali Tariq » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:16 am
sagarock wrote: 1.Each year companies in the United State could save as much as $58 billion in employee illness prevention and gain as much as $200 billion through improving performance of workers if they simply provided .
here improving is acting as gerund,i guess which makes sentence absurd.also modifier 'in employee illness'is wrong.
Correct.
through is preposition.
improving (gerund) is object of preposition (through).
performance is object of improving. ( improving what? performance).
of workers is prep phrase modifying noun (performance) and hence is adjectivial prep phrase.

Correct.
I have deleted that post so that no one gets confused.
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by sagarock » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:01 pm
Sir,well done.you have touched an important comma +ing concept.kindly check whether my thought process is perfect.And after that you post your explanation.i dont have any issue with the comma +ing in which action verb is used.for ex-john increased his calorie intake from 500 to 1500 calories,gaining 15 to 20 kg of weight......but my problem comes when ing is used with be form of verb.
for ex-ANIMAL-HIDE SHIELDS with wooden frames were essential items of military equipment, PROTECTING warriors against enemy arrows and spears.
here protecting is modifying Ahs .why Ahs are essential because it protect from arrows and spears.
2. Though called a sea, the landlocked Caspian is actually the largest lake on Earth, covering
why landlocked caspian is largest because it covers....
3.The greatest road system built in the Americas prior to the arrival of Christopher Columbus, the Incan highway was over 2,500 miles long, extending from
northern Ecuador through Peru to Southern Chile.
how the incan highway was over 2500 miles ? extending also modify the incan highway
4.Fossils of the arm of a . sloth, found in Puerto Rico in 1991, have been dated at 34 million years old, making the sloth the earliest known mammal on...
here making does indirectly modify fossils but still i would be uncertain in real gmat.
kindly provide your analysis

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by Ali Tariq » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:11 am
ex-ANIMAL-HIDE SHIELDS with wooden frames were essential items of military equipment, PROTECTING warriors against enemy arrows and spears.
here protecting is modifying Ahs .why Ahs were essential because they protect from arrows and spears.
perfect!
Why they were essential?
because they protected warriors..
2. Though called a sea, the landlocked Caspian is actually the largest lake on Earth, covering
why landlocked caspian is largest because it covers....
How?
How landlocked caspian is largest?
in that it covers... (further explaination of the fact in clause,which ,ving modifies)
3.The greatest road system built in the Americas prior to the arrival of Christopher Columbus, the Incan highway was over 2,500 miles long, extending from
northern Ecuador through Peru to Southern Chile.
how the incan highway was over 2500 miles ? extending also modify the incan highway
correct.
,ving further explains the information in clause,which ,ving modifies
4.Fossils of the arm of a sloth, found in Puerto Rico in 1991, have been dated at 34 million years old, making the sloth the earliest known mammal on...
here making does indirectly modify fossils
correct.
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by sagarock » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:59 pm
thank you sir.But still i have doubt on this question.
.Fossils of the arm of a sloth, found in Puerto Rico in 1991, have been dated at 34 million years old, making the sloth the earliest known mammal on..
is fossils dating is responsible for making the sloth.......?

There is one more question in which ing is wrongly used.And this question is giving me very hard time.i want your take on it.
Emily Dickinson's letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson were written over a period beginning a few years before Susan's marriage to Emily's brother and ending shortly before Emily's death in 1886, outnumbering her letters to anyone else.
IMO here ing is wrong because outnumbering happens long time after letters were written.what iam missing?

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by Ali Tariq » Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:47 pm
Fossils of the arm of a sloth, found in Puerto Rico in 1991, have been dated at 34 million years old, making the sloth the earliest known mammal on..
is fossils dating responsible for making the sloth.......?
Yes.
Look at it this way,
Earlier there were some fossils, say, fossils of mamal YTM.
They were found in same place, say, in 1985.
Then, they were analyzed in Lab and were dated at 30 million years old.
When it was found that they are that old, this finding established some fact.
Fact was that the mamal YTM is the earliest known mamal on this islands
Who is responsible for this fact (that the mamal YTM is the earliest known mamal on this islands)?


The moment it was found that fossils are that old, the fact that mamal YTM is earliest known mamal was established.

Now apply all that to another event that took place in 1991 and you will get the clear picture.
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by Ali Tariq » Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:59 pm
There is one more question in which ing is wrongly used.And this question is giving me very hard time.i want your take on it.
Emily Dickinson's letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson were written over a period beginning a few years before Susan's marriage to Emily's brother and ending shortly before Emily's death in 1886, outnumbering her letters to anyone else.
IMO here ing is wrong because outnumbering happens long time after letters were written.what iam missing?

split the situation in small events as i have done in sloth SC and analyze this answer choice relative to other answer choices in this particular SC.
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by Ali Tariq » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:45 pm
Fossils of the arm of a sloth, found in Puerto Rico in 1991, have been dated at 34 million years old, making the sloth the earliest known mammal on the Greater Antilles islands
dated, an event one event, made the sloth earliest known mamal.
The occurrence of that event was some moment.
making also occurred, therefore, at the same moment.

Emily Dickinson's letters to Susan Huntington Dickinson were written over a period beginning a few years before Susan's marriage to Emily's brother and ending shortly before Emily's death in 1886, outnumbering her letters to anyone else
were written over a period is a period
The occurrence of that period was not moment.


outnumbering, on the otherhand, is an event that must have occured at some moment.
Which moment?
or
does that state of outnumbering held true the entire period in which the letters were written?
No. nonsensical.
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by sagarock » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:38 am
Sir,all clear.Now before closing on this topic,I have a following questions-
1.Is it important in gmat to know the subtle difference between verb ing and gerund?
2.Is there any official question testing this difference?
3.If so,than what is the surest method to find the difference?
For example-I know that ing after preposition and ing after a noun or article is gerund.Also,wherever they function as noun.a issue that can be difficult sometimes to ascertain
Kindly provide your detail analysis.Thank you

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by Ali Tariq » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:43 pm
1.Is it important in gmat to know the subtle difference between verb ing and gerund?
Yes, if you aim for 99 percentile.
If you don't aim for such an ambitious score then you can skip it without any hesitation.
For instance in CR, it is not advised to master parallel reasoning or flaw in the reasoning questions at the expense of strengthen/weaken/assumption questions.
Same deal here.
2.Is there any official question testing this difference?
Yes.
Rising inventories, when unaccompanied correspondingly by increases in sales, can lead to production cutbacks that would hamper economic growth.

(A) when unaccompanied correspondingly by increases in sales, can lead
(B) when not accompanied by corresponding increases in sales, possibly leads
(C) when they were unaccompanied by corresponding sales increases, can lead
(D) if not accompanied by correspondingly increased sales, possibly leads
(E) if not accompanied by corresponding increases in sales, can lead
If you mistake rising for Subject (gerund) and inventories for object of rising( gerund), then picking the correct verb will be problematic.
Few answer choices can be crossed out because of this difference.

Will it ever be a deal breaker?
There are many things that will not be deal breaker.
Same deal here.

3.If so, than what is the surest method to find the difference?
Difference is mandatory to be aware of in following construction
Verbing nouns verb...
If verbing is a subject, then verb will be singular.
If verbing is a modifier, then verb will be plural.
(as is the case in above SC).

Test yourself with these sentences and analyze your reasoning.
Rising inventories lead/leads to production cuts
Fruits is/are rich in Vitamins.
Eating fruits are/is good for health


Correct versions
Rising inventories lead to production cuts
Eating fruits is good for health
3.If so, than what is the surest method to find the difference?
I can go in details so that you can be sure whether Ving is a modifier or a gerund.
However, if you can get correct answers to the above questions then ,i think, you are good to go.
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