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Isoceles Triangle

by harsh.champ » Wed Feb 17, 2010 5:37 am

Is ABC an isosceles triangle?

1.Exactly two of the angles <A and <B have the same measure.
2.<B and <C do not have the same measure.

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by ajith » Wed Feb 17, 2010 6:31 am

harsh.champ wrote:Is ABC an isosceles triangle?

1.Exactly two of the angles <A and <B have the same measure.
2.<B and <C do not have the same measure.

1. Sufficient
2) Not sufficient - Third angle could be anything

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by shashank.ism » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:27 pm

harsh.champ wrote:Is ABC an isosceles triangle?

1.Exactly two of the angles <A and <B have the same measure.
2.<B and <C do not have the same measure.

St.1) if <A and <B are equal surely it represents an isoceles trangle.. sufficient.
St.2) <B and <C do not have the same measure. It doesn't say if there are any two equal angles ...so insufficient.
Ans A

Def: isoceles triangle : In an isosceles triangle, two sides are equal in length.[2] An isosceles triangle also has two angles of the same measure; namely, the angles opposite to the two sides of the same length; this fact is the content of the Isosceles triangle theorem.

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by lunarpower » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:44 am

you guys pretty much have this one covered.

BY THE WAY:
this is irrelevant to this particular problem, but you should also know that an equilateral triangle also qualifies as "isosceles". (this is so for the same reason that squares are still rectangles.)

so let's pretend that statement (1) says
(1) <A and <B have the same measure

unlike the current #1, this allows the possibility that the triangle is equilateral - but that wouldn't matter, since equilateral triangles are still isosceles.

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by rahul.s » Tue Feb 23, 2010 6:50 am

lunarpower wrote:you guys pretty much have this one covered.

BY THE WAY:
this is irrelevant to this particular problem, but you should also know that an equilateral triangle also qualifies as "isosceles". (this is so for the same reason that squares are still rectangles.)

so let's pretend that statement (1) says
(1) <A and <B have the same measure

unlike the current #1, this allows the possibility that the triangle is equilateral - but that wouldn't matter, since equilateral triangles are still isosceles.

so, if the questions was: "is triangle ABC equilateral?," would your statement (1) be sufficient?

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by lunarpower » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:09 am

rahul.s wrote:so, if the questions was: "is triangle ABC equilateral?," would your statement (1) be sufficient?

no, since you only have two angles. to guarantee equilateral, you would need all three.

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by Ian Stewart » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:26 am

lunarpower wrote:
BY THE WAY:
this is irrelevant to this particular problem, but you should also know that an equilateral triangle also qualifies as "isosceles". (this is so for the same reason that squares are still rectangles.)

There is actually no consensus in mathematics here - some take 'isosceles' to mean exactly two equal sides, and some take it to mean at least two equal sides. My understanding is that the original meaning was *exactly two equal sides*, but that in recent years the meaning has evolved to include equilateral triangles. All this is irrelevant for the GMAT of course!

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by lunarpower » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:41 pm

Ian Stewart wrote:
lunarpower wrote:
BY THE WAY:
this is irrelevant to this particular problem, but you should also know that an equilateral triangle also qualifies as "isosceles". (this is so for the same reason that squares are still rectangles.)
There is actually no consensus in mathematics here - some take 'isosceles' to mean exactly two equal sides, and some take it to mean at least two equal sides. My understanding is that the original meaning was *exactly two equal sides*, but that in recent years the meaning has evolved to include equilateral triangles. All this is irrelevant for the GMAT of course!

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