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SC-test 1 doubts

by rdxb » Tue Oct 14, 2008 2:43 am
4. If present metal prices continue to sharply rise, the value of the copper in a penny will soon be greater than the face value of the coin.
(A) If present metal prices continue to sharply rise,
(B) If present metal prices are continuing their sharp rise,
(C) Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise,
(D) Continuation of sharply rising metal prices should mean that
(E) Metal prices’ sharp rise continuing should mean that

6. The cause of Osgood’s syndrome is unknown, nor is it known why the disease appears to be increasing in the United States.
(A) unknown, nor is it known
(B) unknown, neither do they know
(C) not known, nor do they know
(D) not known, unknown too is
(E) not known, neither do they know

17. Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.
(A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
(B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues
(C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues
(D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
(E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue


19. At a conference on the origins of language, the complexity of tools 1.75 million years old were said to suggest a level of human development, inconceivable unless they had language.

(C) was said to be suggestive of a level of human development not conceivable without language
(D) was said to suggest a level of human development inconceivable unless they had language
(E) was said to suggest a level of human development inconceivable without language


I'll post the OA's soon... Please post the explanations too, they would really help me.
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Re: SC-test 1 doubts

by rohangupta83 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:02 am
rdxb wrote:4. If present metal prices continue to sharply rise, the value of the copper in a penny will soon be greater than the face value of the coin.
(A) If present metal prices continue to sharply rise,
(B) If present metal prices are continuing their sharp rise,
(C) Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise,
(D) Continuation of sharply rising metal prices should mean that
(E) Metal prices’ sharp rise continuing should mean that

Answer - 'A'

The sentence uses an If Clause. You can identify this by looking identifying that the sentence is using

If........ ,(comma) ('then' - not explicitly in this case but it is still implied)..........

Now that we've identified that the sentence is using an If Clause, the next step is to identify the tense of the If statement. If the tense of the IF statement is present, the tense of the THEN statement must be future. In this case the tense for the IF statement is present so the THEN statement must use 'will' i.e. it must be in future tense.

To make things clearer here is an example:

If you study, you will score highly

similarly

If present metal prices continue to sharply rise, (then) the value of the copper in a penny will soon be greater than the face value of the coin.

That's my take on this problem.. let me know if I'm incorrect. Thanks! and Good luck!

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by schakiiieee » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:08 am
IMHO:

4C
6A
17A
19E

I am not very good at SC but I will try nonetheless:

4.
(A) "sharply rise" sounds wrong. (because you put a word between an infinitive and its "to" which is most of the time wrong
(B) dismiss because of the form "are continuing"
(C) Couldnt spot a mistake.
(D) Wordy.
(E) Wordy.
Wasn't sure between B and C but C sounded better to me.

6.
(A) works in my opinion.
(B) who is "they"
(C) who is "they"
(D) "unknown too" does not sound correct to me
(E) who is "they"

--> A.

17.
(A) Could not find a mistake
(B) "are issues" is wrong in my opinion
(C) "are issues" is wrong in my opinion
(D) Changes the meaning
(E) Changes the meaning

--> A

19. At a conference on the origins of language, the complexity of tools 1.75 million years old were said to suggest a level of human development, inconceivable unless they had language.

(A) who is "they"?
(C) "was said to be suggestive" wordy.
(D) who is "they"?
(E) sounds best to me.

--> E

Would be great if someone could review what I got wrong...
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Re: SC-test 1 doubts

by rohangupta83 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:14 am
6. The cause of Osgood’s syndrome is unknown, nor is it known why the disease appears to be increasing in the United States.
(A) unknown, nor is it known
(B) unknown, neither do they know
(C) not known, nor do they know
(D) not known, unknown too is
(E) not known, neither do they know

I'd have to go with 'A' again. I can't see myself using the pronoun 'they' here simply because who is 'they' referring to in the sentence is not clear. Which would eliminate choices B,C and E. Choice D is awkward construction for me so I'd stick with choice 'A' and hope for the best.

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by rohangupta83 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:20 am
With number 4 you are right.

'A' is incorrect. I totally missed the infinitive verb form.

'C' is the correct answer choice.

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by rohangupta83 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:26 am
Schakiiieee - I think you got all correct.

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by vivek.kapoor83 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 3:31 am
IMO 4-C
6 - A
17 - C
19 -E

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by eshahid » Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:35 am
schakiiieee wrote:IMHO:

4C
6A
17A
Agree with the options except 19th.
schakiiieee wrote: 19. At a conference on the origins of language, the complexity of tools 1.75 million years old were said to suggest a level of human development, inconceivable unless they had language.

(A) who is "they"?
(C) "was said to be suggestive" wordy.
(D) who is "they"?
(E) sounds best to me.

--> E

Would be great if someone could review what I got wrong...
in 19. I find 'C' correct as in 'E' 'said to suggest' gives the indication that the thing was said 'in order to suggest'. While in 'C' we have the intended meaning that it was so said as to suggest.

what's the OA??
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by rdxb » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:17 pm
4. If present metal prices continue to sharply rise, the value of the copper in a penny will soon be greater than the face value of the coin.
(A) If present metal prices continue to sharply rise,
(B) If present metal prices are continuing their sharp rise,
(C) Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise,
(D) Continuation of sharply rising metal prices should mean that
(E) Metal prices’ sharp rise continuing should mean that

6. The cause of Osgood’s syndrome is unknown, nor is it known why the disease appears to be increasing in the United States.
(A) unknown, nor is it known
(B) unknown, neither do they know
(C) not known, nor do they know
(D) not known, unknown too is
(E) not known, neither do they know

17. Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue historians and economists are currently debating.
(A) Whether modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
(B) If modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues
(C) That modern statistical techniques can be usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, are issues
(D) Modern statistical techniques being usefully applied to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue
(E) The useful application of modern statistical techniques to the past, and to a society quite different from our own, is an issue


19. At a conference on the origins of language, the complexity of tools 1.75 million years old were said to suggest a level of human development, inconceivable unless they had language.

(C) was said to be suggestive of a level of human development not conceivable without language
(D) was said to suggest a level of human development inconceivable unless they had language
(E) was said to suggest a level of human development inconceivable without language
Thanks so much , the OAs are:
4) C
6) A
17 A
19) E

in 4) Could some1 explain whats wrong with "sharply rise"

in 6) I chose (D) as the "it" in A had no referent > unknown, nor is it known

in 17) I was confused b/w A , and C.. but I guess there is an "are issues" at the end of C , which would make it wrong.

in 19) "suggestive of " Vs "said to suggest"

I wanted to clarify my doubts, as I always get stuck on such issues . I went thru Mnthtn SC guide 2 times, and have done the OG too.. exam coming soon.. :(

EDIT: Sorry, The OA of 6) is A
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by stop@800 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:17 pm
IMO

4. A
6. D
17. A
19. E

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by Bidisha800 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:24 pm
4(A)
6(A)
17(C)
19(E)

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by worldofhemal » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:01 am
I guess what schakiiieee is trying to explain is that, the sentence contains an infinitive. i.e. a 'to' + verb combination (rise) here.

The infinitive is usually used continuously like "to rise", "to kick" "to wait" etc.
But here its used as "to sharply rise" which might be wrong.

Guys, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: SC-test 1 doubts

by Stockmoose16 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:33 pm
rdxb wrote:4. If present metal prices continue to sharply rise, the value of the copper in a penny will soon be greater than the face value of the coin.
(A) If present metal prices continue to sharply rise,
(B) If present metal prices are continuing their sharp rise,
(C) Should present metal prices continue their sharp rise,
(D) Continuation of sharply rising metal prices should mean that
(E) Metal prices’ sharp rise continuing should mean that

I'll post the OA's soon... Please post the explanations too, they would really help me.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with "A." I see people citing that a split infinitive is incorrect, but that is wrong. There is nothing wrong with splitting up an infinitive (see GRAMMARGIRL.COM if you don't believe me). I strongly doubt that "C" is the correct answer. It is most certainly a misprint.

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by vivek.kapoor83 » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:54 pm
i also wanna talk abt 17, how OA can be A. when u r taling abt modern techniques and ur using ..Is in A. I am not able to understand that.if nay1 can explain.

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Re: SC-test 1 doubts

by rohangupta83 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:40 am
Stockmoose16 wrote:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with "A." I see people citing that a split infinitive is incorrect, but that is wrong. There is nothing wrong with splitting up an infinitive (see GRAMMARGIRL.COM if you don't believe me). I strongly doubt that "C" is the correct answer. It is most certainly a misprint.
According to Manhattangmat splitting up an infinitive is incorrect i.e. you cannot have an adverb between 'to' and a 'verb'.

Source - ManhattanGMAT Sentence Correction (2007 Edition), Chapter 3, page 43.