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760 GMAT 49Q 46V What a ride

by solb22 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:52 pm
* Posting tired so please ignore the ridiculous tone
Kind of pissed my quant was so low. Little background:
Physics major, junior in college. Was scoring 49s-50s in quant and average in verbal before I started studying.

Used:
MGMAT SC and Number PRop (excellent)
Adv Gmat Quant (only did two problem sets but the strats and tacics are good so a decent purchse)
GMATPREP
Kaplan 800 (great for verbal. get this
198 hardest GMATprep problems (do after first 2 gmats)
OG (do ALL sc, 40 cr and 40 RC. 2/3 of both math. all you need. cr and rc too easy)

Take the MGMAT test first to see where you stand, its free. Start with quant studying, its easier to maintain a high level and its easy to get to the 49 leve quickly. After that don't take them, their tests in many ways suck and aren't worth the effort.

GMATprep is BY far the best indicator. Quant was slightly harder than on GMATprep, Verbal slightly easier.
Once you get good at SC youll face three scenarios:
1. Your sure of the answer and but you end up wrong (not too common)
2. You narrow it down to two answers, both seem right (hardest to decide)
3. You know the right answer but it looks awkward and weird. You don't like picking that answer

Most common on the GMAT is #3! By far! Most of the SC answers I picked I could confidently eliminate every answer. But I wasn't happy picking the one left because it wasn't pretty. Practice this-being able to pick right answers over pretty answers

Another tip. Don't worry about your practice test scores! RAnges mater! Not specific scores. Worry more about becoming an excellent test taker (timing)! And take the GMATprep as many times as you like.

Here are my prac tests

MGMAT 1: 560 (didn't know anything about the test, or DS. Didn't know complex numbers did not exist!)
MGMAT 2: 680
MGMAT 3: 690
GMATprep 1: 710 48q 34V (quant was so easy compareed to mgmat i thought i was bombing and stopped trying) 13 wrong q 10 v
GMAtprep2: 750 50q 41V 9 wrong in q 8 in verbal
GMATprep3: 770 50q 44v reapeat 9 in q 4 wrong in verbal.

So tired. Was gonna post the best way to study but am too tired now. The gmat math is the stupidest thing i have ever seen. I have studied such complex math and gotten so used to proofs that I hated actually having to plug in numbers for mgmat.

Pep talk:

For those of you who suck at math but good at verbal: The test is actually kinder to you guys (according to the standard deviation. anyone who disagrees hasn't looked at the charts.) Also, you can learn tricks to eliminate answers or even see trends. Your ranges will vary more. Don't give up.

For those of you who suck at verbal but good at math: You have more work to do, but you will have a harder time fluctuating (you wlill likely stay within whatever range gmatprep tells you). less likely you will see a shocker (low score).

Test Day:
No water bottles. I tried to sneak those tiny water bottles and they make you empty your pockets. dont practice with water like i did.
Breaks are 8 minutes. Give yourself 4 to 5. I did-and turned out actually gave myself 8
Water on face after both.
Lady wasted so much time getting me pens and a new pad. I ran out of time on quant because it took me about 3 minutes to get her attention. raise your hand for paper when your getting towards the last of the sheets. would complain to gmat but my score it too high too complain.
Best little trick I came up with: between the essays and math you have a break as you all know. none of you should be taking the essays to seriously. i finished with about 8 minutes left. I took an unsche. break, and then used my scheduled break. allows you more time if you need it. consider this

Things to take away from this (I will post more later on good and bad ways to study):
Don't worry about your god damn practice tests scores
This test is a horrible indicator: I scored 99 percentile in verbal and 85 in math. Everyone who knows me thinks that is hilarious
GMATprep all the way
dont use too much time to study. only 5 to 6 weeks tops. the beg. I used MGMAT and lots of it was a waste.
you don't need a course. i didnt know they existed until a few days ago.

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by vineeshp » Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:31 pm
Amazing score and simple debrief, awesome. Congrats.
Vineesh,
Just telling you what I know and think. I am not the expert. :)

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by solb22 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:52 pm
Ok taking a break from window shopping schools to give a few more tips:

Because everyone has different weakness, everyone needs to target diff things.

But what truly took me from being an average gmater to a great gmater is going to shock you:

Being as near fuckin perfect at RC as possible!
Yep. Why?

Try this is your getting frustrated. Spend two days on Rc after reading a kaplan or mgmat book on strats.
Both days: take as much time as you need to read and understand the ?s and answers

Why? Because the biggest trick on the GMAT is limiting groups! Occurs in cr rc math and sc. These seem stupid but attention to detail will ensure you dont bomb and pick up on everything!

Example:

The majority of consumer electronic goods sold to Northern retails saw an increase in sales..

NOT the majority of consumer goods
NOT the consumer electronic goods saw an increase in sales
NOT all consumer electronic goods saw an increase

this will show up everywhere!
for example a gmatprep quant i got wrong:

15 different ints with a range of 25 and a MEDIAN of 50 what is the maximum poss value of the greatest #? (easy ? right, I got it wrong)

answer is 43 NOT 50. 15 DIFFERENT ints!!! this will show up everywhere

The easiest way to practice limiting groups is RC. They have the most obvious errors. than CR. than quant problems and then quant DS problems. then SC.

MGMat used that term when referring to something in RC. they should use it in every book.
if your having trouble studying, move to RC and practice being perfect. youll find it helps with everything else

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by [email protected] » Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:53 am
Great Score. Its hard to understand what should be the right raw scores to get a 760. Few days back a friend score a 760 with Q50 and V42 - See the difference.

Anyway, I too am reading the Kaplan 800. Is the RC, CR and SC section similar to the real thing? I have read a lot of bad reviews so I am not sure.

Also can you please attach the file with 198 hardest gmatprep questions ?? or email me at [email protected]

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by [email protected] » Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:05 am
Also, any tips on how to improve verbal ? I have about 25 days to go till my test date and I am having trouble going beyond V40!

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by vineeshp » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:01 am
Akhilesh,

198 can b found on this forum somewhere. Just search. (must_gmat something.)
Vineesh,
Just telling you what I know and think. I am not the expert. :)

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by solb22 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:55 am
'Anyway, I too am reading the Kaplan 800. Is the RC, CR and SC section similar to the real thing? I have read a lot of bad reviews so I am not sure. "

Yes very! The book is great and pretty accurate because a lot of the rules it uses are good ones to know that MGMAT missed. Do this book AFTER you do all of MGMAT SC and OG SC! The explanations are good to reinforce but NOT good to learn.

Advise for verbal sect:
Learn SC rulse (ALL)
Takes notes on every chapter in MGMAT SC and then do the corresponding OG problems after you finish a chapter (they tell you them. including advanced)
^Write down everyone you get wrong and make a chart of which is your weakest.
Should get to about 60-70% on tough SC (sc will take some time)
I liked MGMAT RC and did that first. Try that.
You will start to recognize patterns of RC sections when doing many. Then this will spill over to noticing patterns in quant cr sc etc
Then practice CR! Try and get perfect at CR and RC (don't neglect SC do about 20 a day of wrong SC in OG and kaplan)
Then start doing really tough SC. And redo the SC questions you get wrong in GMATprep.

yep thats my advise for the steps you should take.

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by [email protected] » Mon Jul 25, 2011 4:07 am
solb22 wrote:'Anyway, I too am reading the Kaplan 800. Is the RC, CR and SC section similar to the real thing? I have read a lot of bad reviews so I am not sure. "

Yes very! The book is great and pretty accurate because a lot of the rules it uses are good ones to know that MGMAT missed. Do this book AFTER you do all of MGMAT SC and OG SC! The explanations are good to reinforce but NOT good to learn.

Advise for verbal sect:
Learn SC rulse (ALL)
Takes notes on every chapter in MGMAT SC and then do the corresponding OG problems after you finish a chapter (they tell you them. including advanced)
^Write down everyone you get wrong and make a chart of which is your weakest.
Should get to about 60-70% on tough SC (sc will take some time)
I liked MGMAT RC and did that first. Try that.
You will start to recognize patterns of RC sections when doing many. Then this will spill over to noticing patterns in quant cr sc etc
Then practice CR! Try and get perfect at CR and RC (don't neglect SC do about 20 a day of wrong SC in OG and kaplan)
Then start doing really tough SC. And redo the SC questions you get wrong in GMATprep.

yep thats my advise for the steps you should take.
Well I am at the end of my prep actually. And I am already getting 70-80% correct on 700-800 level SC questions.
But yet I make mistakes and can't breach V40! Where should I practise RC and CR from?

I have finished OG 12,11, Verbal Supplement. I also did quite many LSAT Papers but the questions are very different from GMAT.

Since I just 25 days to go which material should I use to practise now?

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by winniethepooh » Wed Jul 27, 2011 7:34 pm
solb22 wrote:* Posting tired so please ignore the ridiculous tone
Kind of pissed my quant was so low. Little background:
Physics major, junior in college. Was scoring 49s-50s in quant and average in verbal before I started studying.

Used:
MGMAT SC and Number PRop (excellent)
Adv Gmat Quant (only did two problem sets but the strats and tacics are good so a decent purchse)GMATPREP
Kaplan 800 (great for verbal. get this
198 hardest GMATprep problems (do after first 2 gmats)
OG (do ALL sc, 40 cr and 40 RC. 2/3 of both math. all you need. cr and rc too easy)
Which book are you talking about? The one offered by Manhattan or is it some other?
Is it really helpful?

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by solb22 » Thu Jul 28, 2011 9:55 am
winniethepooh wrote:
solb22 wrote:* Posting tired so please ignore the ridiculous tone
Kind of pissed my quant was so low. Little background:
Physics major, junior in college. Was scoring 49s-50s in quant and average in verbal before I started studying.

Used:
MGMAT SC and Number PRop (excellent)
Adv Gmat Quant (only did two problem sets but the strats and tacics are good so a decent purchse)GMATPREP
Kaplan 800 (great for verbal. get this
198 hardest GMATprep problems (do after first 2 gmats)
OG (do ALL sc, 40 cr and 40 RC. 2/3 of both math. all you need. cr and rc too easy)
Which book are you talking about? The one offered by Manhattan or is it some other?
Is it really helpful?
Yes the MGMAT one. If your someone who is inherently good at math then yes it is. It forces you to take the GMAT quant their way and not your way which is prob slower. I could answer every question perfectly if I had 5 imn per question but that was not the case. So you learn how to eliminate answers and not waste time.

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by winniethepooh » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:24 pm
Dude, are you a native?
I am banking on your words! :)