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by sandy217 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:33 am
Records of the first 736 British convicts deported to Australia reveal convictions for crimes against property in all cases and they ranged from highway to forgery

A. Convictions for crimes against property in all cases and they ranged
B.Convictions in all cases were crimes against property and ranging
C. the ranging of convictions for crimes against property ranging
D. that all were convicted of crimes against property ranging
E. that all of them had convictions for crimes that were against property; the range was

Answer along with explanations would be appreciated.
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by karanrulz4ever » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:11 am
IMO D
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by arpita@gurome » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:16 am
sandy217 wrote:Records of the first 736 British convicts deported to Australia reveal convictions for crimes against property in all cases and they ranged from highway to forgery

A. Convictions for crimes against property in all cases and they ranged
B.Convictions in all cases were crimes against property and ranging
C. the ranging of convictions for crimes against property ranging
D. that all were convicted of crimes against property ranging
E. that all of them had convictions for crimes that were against property; the range was

Answer along with explanations would be appreciated.
"Reveal that" makes sense here, let us step back and assume that this does not click.
A possible prephrase could be "crimes ranging from X .... to Y.....

We see that B, C and D remain on this basis.
Examining each choice:
B - convictions were not crimes as stated in the choice -"Convictions in all cases were crimes "
C - Ranging ....ranging is an awkward construction.
D - looks good

[spoiler]Hence pick D.[/spoiler]

Also note A can be eliminated on the basis of reference to "they" which is ambiguous in reference.

Hope this helps!
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by sandy217 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:22 am
Thanks for the explanation.

in choice D ......property ranging from highway robbery to forgery..
Property is not ranging from highway robbery to forgery , crimes are ranging from X to Y.

Am i missing something here?
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by niksworth » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:47 am
sandy217 wrote:Thanks for the explanation.

in choice D ......property ranging from highway robbery to forgery..
Property is not ranging from highway robbery to forgery , crimes are ranging from X to Y.

Am i missing something here?
@sandy217,
I think you have a valid doubt. What is the source of this question?
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by niksworth » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:52 am
arpita@gurome wrote:
Also note A can be eliminated on the basis of reference to "they" which refers to crimes which is incorrect (inanimate).

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Arpita,

I was wondering if the reference of they to inanimate objects is always incorrect.

Consider the following -
Nuclear power stations are a menace to humanity. They are capable of causing widespread devastation if things go awry.

Is the use of they incorrect here?
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by sandy217 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:10 am
Source : Practice exercises from kaplan Gmat comprehensive program.

I think "They" in A refers to Records(again inanimate) but not crimes and hence it is wrong.

Records of the first 736 British convicts deported to Australia reveal convictions for crimes against property in all cases and they ranged from highway to forgery



Correct answer should convey , crimes are ranging from X to Y. But i think none of the answer choices are doing that.
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by niksworth » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:18 am
For sure the use of they is incorrect in A, but my reason is different.

In my opinion, they is incorrect in A because the antecedent is ambiguous and not because it is inanimate
They can refer to -
1) records
2) convictions
3) crimes

My question to Arpita was to clarify that if they refers to inanimate objects, is it a valid reason for ruling the option out?
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by arpita@gurome » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:18 am
niksworth wrote:For sure the use of they is incorrect in A, but my reason is different.

In my opinion, they is incorrect in A because the antecedent is ambiguous and not because it is inanimate
They can refer to -
1) records
2) convictions
3) crimes

My question to Arpita was to clarify that if they refers to inanimate objects, is it a valid reason for ruling the option out?
Agreed, ambiguousness trumps over animate / inanimate weeding.

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by shurti4you » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:40 am
Simple one and the answer is D!
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by hmbasheer » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:55 am
Records of the first 736 British convicts deported to Australia reveal convictions for crimes against property in all cases and they ranged from highway to forgery

A. Convictions for crimes against property in all cases and they ranged
B.Convictions in all cases were crimes against property and ranging
C. the ranging of convictions for crimes against property ranging
D. that all were convicted of crimes against property ranging
E. that all of them had convictions for crimes that were against property; the range was


Hi Sandy,
when we Trim to the fact. the sentance'll be like this.
Records reveal _______________________from highway to forgery.

a)'they' is ambiguous. And it should be 'reveal that' or 'reveal to'
b)it sshould be-> records reveal crime convictions in all cases ranging from
c)Redundancy
d)Records reveal that all were convicted of crimes against property ranging from...[Seems to be the answer]
e)says they had convictions not now.

this is my answer what is the OA?
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by sandy217 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:04 am
OA is D.

But my question is , in D "ranging" should modify crimes not the property. Y is it assumed that crimes are ranging from X to Y?
Is it because "crimes against property" is a prepositional phrase?[/quote]
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by sandy217 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:13 am
@ niksworth

Agreed "They" can refer any of those , Need not be Records.
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by mundasingh123 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:04 am
shurti4you wrote:Simple one and the answer is D!
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by sandy217 » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:53 am
mundasingh123 wrote:
shurti4you wrote:Simple one and the answer is D!
yea
I dnt think ,this simple/easy/not great words will not add to anyone's knowledge. Kindly try to answer the question along with explanations and make others understand the easiness with which u could answer .It will be helpful to the person who thought question is problematic and posted this.

Please try to catch up to the point and post topics relevant to the discussion.
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