Hi Mitch,
How can we probably apply the separator method to the problem below?
Tanya prepared 4 different letters to be sent to 4 different addresses.
For each letter, she prepared an envelope with its correct address.
If the 4 letters are to be put into the 4 envelopes at random, what
is the probability that only one letter will be put into the envelope
with its correct address?
(A) 1/24 (B) 1/8 (C) 1/4 (D) 1/3 (E) 3/8
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The separator method is used to count the number of ways in which IDENTICAL elements can be DISTRIBUTED.gmatdriller wrote:Hi Mitch,
How can we probably apply the separator method to the problem below?
Tanya prepared 4 different letters to be sent to 4 different addresses.
For each letter, she prepared an envelope with its correct address.
If the 4 letters are to be put into the 4 envelopes at random, what
is the probability that only one letter will be put into the envelope
with its correct address?
(A) 1/24 (B) 1/8 (C) 1/4 (D) 1/3 (E) 3/8
In the Tanya problem, the letters are all DIFFERENT.
The DISTRIBUTION is fixed at one letter per envelope, so we don't need to count the number of possible distributions.
Hence, the separator method is not appropriate.
I posted a solution to the Tanya problem here:
https://www.beatthegmat.com/difficult-pr ... tml#344738
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Here's another distribution problem solved with the separator method:
Let the 5 identical donuts = DDDDD.
Let the 2 separators = ||.
Number of ways to arrange DDDDD|| = 7!(5!/2!) = 21.
5 identical donuts are being divided at most 2 times.Larry, Michael, and Doug have five donuts to share. If any one of the men can be given any whole number of donuts from 0 to 5, in how many different ways can the donuts be distributed?
(A) 21
(B) 42
(C) 120
(D) 504
(E) 5040
Let the 5 identical donuts = DDDDD.
Let the 2 separators = ||.
Number of ways to arrange DDDDD|| = 7!(5!/2!) = 21.
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Hi, I am new to the separator method. Could you suggest any material or website from which I can learn the method.
Am taking my time to understand the separator method and how
it differs from conventional means of solving such problems.
Will get back to you later...
it differs from conventional means of solving such problems.
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You did not count 221. and 23.GMATGuruNY wrote:Use the separator method.Chaitanya_1986 wrote:How many positive integers less than 10,000 are there in which sum of digits equals 5?
(a) 31
(b) 51
(c) 56
(d) 62
(e) 93
Let the 5-unit sum = DDDDD.
We can use these five D's to represent any integer in which the sum of the digits is 5:
DDDDD = 5.
DDDD D = 41.
D DDD D = 131.
To be less than 10,000, the integer can have at most 4 digits.
Thus, the five D's can be separated at most into 4 groups. For example:
D D D DD = 1112.
Thus, there are at most 3 separators dividing the five D's.
Let the 3 separators = |||.
Thus:
|||DDDDD = 5.
||DDDD|D = 41.
|D|DDD|D = 131.
D|D|D|DD = 1112.
Thus, to count the number of integers, we need to count the number of ways to arrange DDDDD|||.
Number of ways to arrange DDDDD||| = 8!/(5!3!) = 56.
The correct answer is C.
How did you account for these combinations ?
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The separator method accounts for EVERY possible integer.dhonu121 wrote:You did not count 221. and 23.GMATGuruNY wrote:Use the separator method.Chaitanya_1986 wrote:How many positive integers less than 10,000 are there in which sum of digits equals 5?
(a) 31
(b) 51
(c) 56
(d) 62
(e) 93
Let the 5-unit sum = DDDDD.
We can use these five D's to represent any integer in which the sum of the digits is 5:
DDDDD = 5.
DDDD D = 41.
D DDD D = 131.
To be less than 10,000, the integer can have at most 4 digits.
Thus, the five D's can be separated at most into 4 groups. For example:
D D D DD = 1112.
Thus, there are at most 3 separators dividing the five D's.
Let the 3 separators = |||.
Thus:
|||DDDDD = 5.
||DDDD|D = 41.
|D|DDD|D = 131.
D|D|D|DD = 1112.
Thus, to count the number of integers, we need to count the number of ways to arrange DDDDD|||.
Number of ways to arrange DDDDD||| = 8!/(5!3!) = 56.
The correct answer is C.
How did you account for these combinations ?
|DD|DD|D = 0221 = 221.
||DD|DDD = 0023 = 23.
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GMATGuruNY wrote:Use the separator method.Chaitanya_1986 wrote:How many positive integers less than 10,000 are there in which sum of digits equals 5?
(a) 31
(b) 51
(c) 56
(d) 62
(e) 93
Let the 5-unit sum = DDDDD.
We can use these five D's to represent any integer in which the sum of the digits is 5:
DDDDD = 5.
DDDD D = 41.
D DDD D = 131.
To be less than 10,000, the integer can have at most 4 digits.
Thus, the five D's can be separated at most into 4 groups. For example:
D D D DD = 1112.
Thus, there are at most 3 separators dividing the five D's.
Let the 3 separators = |||.
Thus:
|||DDDDD = 5.
||DDDD|D = 41.
|D|DDD|D = 131.
D|D|D|DD = 1112.
Thus, to count the number of integers, we need to count the number of ways to arrange DDDDD|||.
Number of ways to arrange DDDDD||| = 8!/(5!3!) = 56.
The correct answer is C.
Hi Mitch,
Can you please share more information on selecting 5 Ds. Since the no of digits anytime will be less than 5. as no will be < 10000 at any given time.
"We can use these five D's to represent any integer in which the sum of the digits is 5:"
This was nice explanation. Thank you for separator method.
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