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by hulahooporiginal » Fri Nov 23, 2012 2:26 pm
I am having trouble maintaining speed on CR and being accurate under pressure. It's really pulling me down. Does anyone have suggestions?

I am already doing the following:
1. Diagramming - T diagram
2. Writing out the conclusion and premise
3. If it is an assumption question then make my own assumptions

4 out of 5 times I narrow down 2 choices and the one I leave is the right one. It is extremely frustrating. I know this is mostly due to the fact that I am under pressure, but I have been practising hard and I am still making the same mistakes.

Can anyone please help? I would deeply appreciate it.
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by David@VeritasPrep » Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:28 pm
You are writing down the conclusion and the premise, but what are you writing for the premise? Are you writing out everything that is not the conclusion? Or are you breaking it down to the conclusion, the evidence, and the context (as the new Veritas CR book shows you how to do)?

In this article, I describe how to narrow the focus on critical reasoning. https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/02/ ... duncan-way

The key is not to try to go fast, that will never work it adds pressure and leads to mistakes. The key is to be able to see the argument as you read it and as you assemble the conclusion and the evidence. You should notice things like changes in wording ("arrest" is not the same as "conviction") and gaps in logic.

But it all begins with separating the argument into the part that you should focus on - conclusion and evidence - and the part that you do not need to focus on but should just sort of absorb - background information.

I am writing a new article on the role of the "context" in the critical reasoning problems but I will share a little of it with you now - the reason that they have "background information" in a CR problem (and the article that I supply the link to above makes clear what I mean by background information) is there for two reasons.

1) It is there to distract you. Of course this is necessary since the question writers need to make the incorrect answers look appealing and people who focus too much on the context often get taken in by these incorrect answers.

2) The context is there to make the questions fair to everyone. For example, in the article I link to above there is a problem that I discuss that is about "sleep deprivation." Now not everyone is going to know what this is. It might be a term that is not familiar to people across all cultures. However, the context makes it clear that this is something that is bad and should be avoided, that is enough understanding to answer the question correctly. So the background information helps to level the playing field and make sure that no outside knowledge is needed on CR questions! Yet this does not mean that you should pay too much attention to the context, just let it give you any sort of general knowledge that you need in order to understand the conclusion and the evidence and then do not pay any more attention to the context. Remember if you focus on it you will be set up for the wrong answers.

Are their particular question types you are having trouble with?
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by hulahooporiginal » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:23 am
Thank You David. That was rather helpful. After doing a few practice tests and getting less than 50% of the questions right, I realised that I needed to make a shift in my thinking. I found some material on logical reasoning that helped me identify Conclusions from Premises. In fact, thinking that the Conclusion is the sentence which is always true whereas the Premises are the sentences that offer reason to believe the truth of the Conclusion, helped me massively. Now i can identify assumptions much better.

But, strengthening and weakening arguments is still not something i am extremely comfortable with. Any help on the above would be deeply appreciated.


David@VeritasPrep wrote:You are writing down the conclusion and the premise, but what are you writing for the premise? Are you writing out everything that is not the conclusion? Or are you breaking it down to the conclusion, the evidence, and the context (as the new Veritas CR book shows you how to do)?

In this article, I describe how to narrow the focus on critical reasoning. https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/02/ ... duncan-way

The key is not to try to go fast, that will never work it adds pressure and leads to mistakes. The key is to be able to see the argument as you read it and as you assemble the conclusion and the evidence. You should notice things like changes in wording ("arrest" is not the same as "conviction") and gaps in logic.

But it all begins with separating the argument into the part that you should focus on - conclusion and evidence - and the part that you do not need to focus on but should just sort of absorb - background information.

I am writing a new article on the role of the "context" in the critical reasoning problems but I will share a little of it with you now - the reason that they have "background information" in a CR problem (and the article that I supply the link to above makes clear what I mean by background information) is there for two reasons.

1) It is there to distract you. Of course this is necessary since the question writers need to make the incorrect answers look appealing and people who focus too much on the context often get taken in by these incorrect answers.

2) The context is there to make the questions fair to everyone. For example, in the article I link to above there is a problem that I discuss that is about "sleep deprivation." Now not everyone is going to know what this is. It might be a term that is not familiar to people across all cultures. However, the context makes it clear that this is something that is bad and should be avoided, that is enough understanding to answer the question correctly. So the background information helps to level the playing field and make sure that no outside knowledge is needed on CR questions! Yet this does not mean that you should pay too much attention to the context, just let it give you any sort of general knowledge that you need in order to understand the conclusion and the evidence and then do not pay any more attention to the context. Remember if you focus on it you will be set up for the wrong answers.

Are their particular question types you are having trouble with?

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by hulahooporiginal » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:47 am
David,

Here's a question for you:

It seems that Americans are smarter than they were 50 years ago. Many more Americans are attending college now than in the past, and the typical entry level job in business now requires a college degree.

Which of the following statements if true would most seriously weaken the argument above?

A. High school courses are more rigorous now than they were in the past.
B. Tuition at colleges and universities has more than tripled in the last 25 years.
C. High school class sizes have gotten smaller, and computers have introduced a more individualized curriculum.
D. Businesses are not requiring as high a level of writing or math skills as they did in the past decades.
E. Many of the skills and concepts taught in high school 50 years ago are now taught in college.

Please explain why you picked your answer.

Thank you. :)

David@VeritasPrep wrote:You are writing down the conclusion and the premise, but what are you writing for the premise? Are you writing out everything that is not the conclusion? Or are you breaking it down to the conclusion, the evidence, and the context (as the new Veritas CR book shows you how to do)?

In this article, I describe how to narrow the focus on critical reasoning. https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/02/ ... duncan-way

The key is not to try to go fast, that will never work it adds pressure and leads to mistakes. The key is to be able to see the argument as you read it and as you assemble the conclusion and the evidence. You should notice things like changes in wording ("arrest" is not the same as "conviction") and gaps in logic.

But it all begins with separating the argument into the part that you should focus on - conclusion and evidence - and the part that you do not need to focus on but should just sort of absorb - background information.

I am writing a new article on the role of the "context" in the critical reasoning problems but I will share a little of it with you now - the reason that they have "background information" in a CR problem (and the article that I supply the link to above makes clear what I mean by background information) is there for two reasons.

1) It is there to distract you. Of course this is necessary since the question writers need to make the incorrect answers look appealing and people who focus too much on the context often get taken in by these incorrect answers.

2) The context is there to make the questions fair to everyone. For example, in the article I link to above there is a problem that I discuss that is about "sleep deprivation." Now not everyone is going to know what this is. It might be a term that is not familiar to people across all cultures. However, the context makes it clear that this is something that is bad and should be avoided, that is enough understanding to answer the question correctly. So the background information helps to level the playing field and make sure that no outside knowledge is needed on CR questions! Yet this does not mean that you should pay too much attention to the context, just let it give you any sort of general knowledge that you need in order to understand the conclusion and the evidence and then do not pay any more attention to the context. Remember if you focus on it you will be set up for the wrong answers.

Are their particular question types you are having trouble with?

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by David@VeritasPrep » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:36 pm
Hulahoop -

I wonder if you are having fun with me? If you have this book "GMAT for Dummies" please turn to the acknowledgements page. You will see my name there. That is because very early in my career I wrote the verbal sections of this book. I tell you this so that I can let you know that this book is now 7 years old and I have some very different things to say now.

This question is not GMAT quality. I say that as the person who wrote it. You should leave this one behind. In fact, I would say that there are other books more suitable for serious GMAT studies.

By the way the answer is E.

Let me give you this link to an article I wrote about strengthen questions. https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/02/ ... duncan-way
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by tanviet » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:52 am
what is the full name of "veritas cr books", pls tell me

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by David@VeritasPrep » Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:35 am
At Amazon and through the Veritas store you will find the Veritas Prep Critical Reasoning 1 and 2 books that are sold as a package deal. So it is basically 2 books for the one low price there. Lots of questions in the 2 books! Once those are gone they will be gone.

In the Veritas classes we are working with new books and there is just one of new critical reasoning books - it is book 5 in the set. However, Book 9 is Advanced Verbal Strategies and includes tough problems from CR, SC, and RC. If you buy the entire set of Veritas books from the Veritas website you will get the new books including these two, these are not available for sale individually yet.
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by hulahooporiginal » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:42 pm
I had absolutely no idea you wrote the verbal section of the book! Apologies for that. I was just googling things and this was just one of the results.

I think i will give up on CR soon, David. I am probably not logical - certainly not under test conditions! Thanks for your help so far.
David@VeritasPrep wrote:Hulahoop -

I wonder if you are having fun with me? If you have this book "GMAT for Dummies" please turn to the acknowledgements page. You will see my name there. That is because very early in my career I wrote the verbal sections of this book. I tell you this so that I can let you know that this book is now 7 years old and I have some very different things to say now.

This question is not GMAT quality. I say that as the person who wrote it. You should leave this one behind. In fact, I would say that there are other books more suitable for serious GMAT studies.

By the way the answer is E.

Let me give you this link to an article I wrote about strengthen questions. https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/02/ ... duncan-way

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by David@VeritasPrep » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:30 pm
No apologies needed!!!

I just wanted to let you know that when I advised that you put that book away that I was not attacking someone else's work.

DO NOT give up on CR. You need not be a logical person to improve and even excel. You can just pretend to be logical...
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by hulahooporiginal » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:20 pm
Okay David, I've literally taken your word for it. After postponing my test 8 days before the date because my score has been hovering around 550 and not making much sense of CR, I've decided to take your advice and not give up on it. I've read your article very carefully. Will let you know how it goes.

Thank you once again. (really!)

David@VeritasPrep wrote:No apologies needed!!!

I just wanted to let you know that when I advised that you put that book away that I was not attacking someone else's work.

DO NOT give up on CR. You need not be a logical person to improve and even excel. You can just pretend to be logical...

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by hulahooporiginal » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:21 pm
Found myself applying the MIP rule to this question but got the answer wrong. Could you help to explain where I am going wrong, please? Thank you.

A certain baseball team has just completed its season. In stadiums that seat 20,000 or fewer people, the team averaged 1 "home run" -- a ball hit across the field of play and over the opposing fence, called the outfield wall -- per game. In stadiums that seat between 20,000 and 40,000 people, the team averaged 2 home runs per game. Finally, in stadiums that seat 40,000 or more people, the team averaged 3 home runs per game. Obviously, the excitement of playing in front of large crowds motivated the team to hit more home runs.

Assuming that all stadiums during the season were filled to capacity, which of the following, if true, most undermines the argument above?


a. The team's leading home run hitter hit more home runs in mid-sized stadiums than in large stadiums.

b. The fans in the larger stadiums often cheered against the team.

c. The team averaged only 2 home runs per game when playing in the league's largest stadium.

d. In order to create seating for the additional fans, the outfield walls in the larger stadiums were constructed closer to where the batter stands.

e. The team's announcer cited crowd noise as a major motivator for the team.


P1 - 1 HR in stadiums of 20k capacity
P2 - 2 HR in stadiums of 20 to 40K capacity
P3 - 3 HR in stadiums of 40k + capacity - MIP
Conclusion - The excitement of playing in front of large crowds motivated the team to hit more home runs.

A statement that weakens the conclusion should say even with the large crowds in the stadium, more home runs were not scored/ some other factor was the cause of more home runs.

So, my answer is C.

And I am wrong. The correct answer is D. Not sure why. Please help me understand.

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by David@VeritasPrep » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:53 pm
This is a weaken question. So for this type of question you have to work with the technique a little. The article was for strengthen questions - as well as things like method of reasoning.

For weaken you should take a little different path...

once you have the conclusion - pick the answer choice that goes to the opposite of the conclusion.

The conclusion is "excitement of playing in front of large crowds motivated the team to hit more home runs."

(I would say that you can summarize the MIP as "bigger stadium = more homeruns" but focus on the conclusion with me now...)

Take the opposite of the main conclusion and find the answer that supports this: so,
"excitement of playing in front of large crowds DID NOT motivate the team to hit more home runs."
I added the Did not...
Essentially you need another reason why the homeruns were hit other than the excitement of the fans.

This is a cause and effect question! The conclusion says that the cause of the increased home runs is the enthusiasm. You want to say that there is a different cause for the increased homeruns. Something other than enthusiasm.

It is clear that D must be the alternate cause. Smaller stadium easier to hit home runs.

The article I had you read helps you to figure out how to focus on CR questions. But the different types of questions still require different approaches. A weaken question is a bit different and a cause and effect weaken is best approached as I have done here.

Does that help?
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by hulahooporiginal » Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:53 pm
Yes that helped. Once again, thank you David. Will come back again if i get stuck. I wish i could thank you in person but i'm in London to be able to do that!


David@VeritasPrep wrote:This is a weaken question. So for this type of question you have to work with the technique a little. The article was for strengthen questions - as well as things like method of reasoning.

For weaken you should take a little different path...

once you have the conclusion - pick the answer choice that goes to the opposite of the conclusion.

The conclusion is "excitement of playing in front of large crowds motivated the team to hit more home runs."

(I would say that you can summarize the MIP as "bigger stadium = more homeruns" but focus on the conclusion with me now...)

Take the opposite of the main conclusion and find the answer that supports this: so,
"excitement of playing in front of large crowds DID NOT motivate the team to hit more home runs."
I added the Did not...
Essentially you need another reason why the homeruns were hit other than the excitement of the fans.

This is a cause and effect question! The conclusion says that the cause of the increased home runs is the enthusiasm. You want to say that there is a different cause for the increased homeruns. Something other than enthusiasm.

It is clear that D must be the alternate cause. Smaller stadium easier to hit home runs.

The article I had you read helps you to figure out how to focus on CR questions. But the different types of questions still require different approaches. A weaken question is a bit different and a cause and effect weaken is best approached as I have done here.

Does that help?