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by karenleslie » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:12 pm
I just discovered this forum the day before my GMAT (could have been useful earlier!!) but it looks like a great resource for grad school info, too :)

I scored a 640 on my GMATPrep test, a pitiful 31 percentile in Quant, and a plesant 97th in Verbal.
I went out and bought Kaplan's Math Prep book the day my area of focus was so clearly pointed out to me by the practice test, and went through most of it.

I don't know how I did on the AWA, obviously, but I got a 37 on the Quant and 47 Verbal. I just thought I'd share my excitement--hopefully it will help me compensate for the fact that I have no FT work experience and I'm applying in the 3rd out of 4 rounds. Yikes ;)
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by cramya » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:26 am
Thats awesome, Congrats Karen!

Whats the secret behind the Verbal 47 beacuse that's simply awesome!!! (97th percentile)

Verbal does have a big impact on the overall score....

Good luck with the rest of the process.

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by aj5105 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:29 am
awesome verbal score ! good luck!

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by karenleslie » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:24 pm
The verbal section is always my favorite--I didn't realize until I found this forum that anyone found the verbal section formidable. I read through the Kaplan Premier 08 verbal sections to get an idea of what to expect, but after taking that practice test (31st percentile in quant and 97 in verbal) I concentrated entirely on Quant.

I'm baffled by the Quant scores people are posting here, but I can tell you that my past verbal scores on things like this have boosted my confidence, and I'm much more relaxed during the verbal section. I finished something like 25 minutes early, which was terrifying--I thought I missed something! I did much better during the test and simulated test than I had been doing in the workbook, which is confusing (Math is worse on test day!) I must be broken, don't know what to tell you ;)

The print out told me I was in the 51st percentile in Quant and 99th in verbal (I stared at the screen for a while on that one before I did a silent, respectful happy dance in my chair :) my overall percentile was 90! (Obviously something more complicated than simple averaging went into getting 90 out of 51 and 99!!)

I would ask how that works, but would that ruin the magic? :)

I don't know if I can help anyone on the verbal section, but I'd love to try! what do people find difficult?

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by cramya » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:55 pm
Some people are blessed wiht Quant skills and some with Verbal.

U must belong to the latter.

Just wondering if u followed any specific strategies for the different sections in Verbal during ur prep or it was just the fact that u were good in SC/CR/RC to begin with?

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by logitech » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:43 pm
karenleslie wrote:I don't know if I can help anyone on the verbal section, but I'd love to try! what do people find difficult?
Ah Karen...where should we start from :) God Bless you!

Lets get some tips from you...

How do you approach CR, SC and RC questions. What is your method for each question type ?

How do you tame the RC beast ?

Just tell us the magic already..

Congrats again!
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by karenleslie » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:05 pm
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karenleslie wrote:I don't know if I can help anyone on the verbal section, but I'd love to try! what do people find difficult?
Ah Karen...where should we start from :) God Bless you!
Oh, He does, logitech, indeed He does!
In fact, I did a LOT of praying that morning, maybe that's what did it :)

I'm surprised that RC is a sticking point, I breathed a sigh of relief when those passages came up! They seem less ambiguous on to me than CR, and less debatable that SC (of the four I got wrong on the practice test, none were RC, and most I understood, but there was an SC I'd still argue my side of :)

I try to take Kaplan's advice and read the question on the right side first ( I usually forget and end up doing that after I read the intro.) While studying, I would sometimes scan the stimulus, but the test sufficiently freaked me out, so I made sure to read the whole thing. I'd read each question and quickly think up some satisfactory answers in my head before reading the options. I wrote the letters ABCDE on my funky laminated paper thing once, and on tougher questions I'd go through and cross out the ones I knew were wrong, putting dashes next to the possibilities. (I didn't bother rewriting the letters for each question, it just helped me to get an idea of which options I was ignoring, it could get overwhelming on tougher ones to try to eliminate in my head for some reason.) If there was nothing in there that matched what I'd pre-formulated, I went back and read the sentence in question and the surrounding two. Twice I realized I'd misunderstood the passage, which was disconcerting, but the fact that there were no answers close to mine alerted me to that fact and prompted me to reread the passage, paying closer attention. I realized while I was testing that I kept a sort of running summary of the passage (it's thesis and evidence, how it related points to one another, and any turns it made with words like "however") as I read in my own words, which helped greatly with pre-formulating and with selecting and eliminating answer choices on intuition.

English is my first language and first love (I was an english major until I realized that i couldn't get a job doing anything but teaching, at which I would be worse than lousy!) I was the kid who read for fun and snuck a flashlight under the covers :) That's to say I likely am strong in reading comprehension not because I'm brilliant (ha!) but because I'm a dork! ;)

SC was second easiest--I'd read the sentence briefly consider any obvious flaws. If I found any wordiness, tense disagreement, or screwed up idioms, I'd look through the answer choices first to find the ones that corrected that problem, then compare those options and pick out the differences. That's probably where I saved a lot of time, I didn't have to read all the answer choices that way. If I didn't see anything glaringly wrong, I'd start reading B, and as soon as I encountered something I didn't like, I moved on. If I got all the way through the answer choices without finding one that i liked better than the first one, I picked A. I guess I almost looked at it like I was grading my little brother's essay and had to pick the wording I liked best, instead of what are the rules for this, that and the other thing and which of these options follows which of the rules best, blah, blah, blah.

CR were the tougher ones because I've never taken a test with those in it. (I want my analogies back!!) I don't know that my advice would be very helpful on those, the ones I got wrong on the practice test were mostly CR. I pre-formulated for those, too, and tried to read the question before the stimulus.

Hope that helps!!
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by logitech » Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:38 pm
Thank you very much Karen. So now I know the path to the success for verbal. I will invent a time machine and travel back in time and born in an English speaking country and find a flash light and hide under the covers and pop up on test day!!

:D

I live in Cali too. Are you applying for R3 or R1 for the next year ?
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by karenleslie » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:09 pm
R3! (eek...)

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by AriseAwake » Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:54 pm
Hi,

Can someone please explain what is R1 and R3 ?

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by logitech » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:12 pm
AriseAwake wrote:Hi,

Can someone please explain what is R1 and R3 ?

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Round 1 (R1) is the first round of applications. B-Schools usually have several rounds during the year to accept applications. R3 stands for Round 3 and for many schools, it is the last round.
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by AriseAwake » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:03 pm
Thanks Logitech !

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