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by durgesh79 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:06 am
i think it should be B

statement 2 : distance between t and r is t-r
distance between t and -s is t+s

both are same, t-r = t+s => r = -s

0 is in middle of two points.

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by s_raizada » Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:25 am
OA is C

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by Ian Stewart » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:58 am
Note first that we can rephrase the question. It's asking: is r = -s ?

The answer is C. The second statement is not sufficient, because s (and t) might be positive or negative. From statement 2 alone, we have two possibilities:

a) -s is to the right of t (which can happen if s < 0)
b) -s is to the left of t

In case b), r = -s. In case a), however, r < t < -s, so r will not be equal to -s (and if someone wants an example with numbers, note that Statement 2 will be true if t = -1, s = -2, and r = -4, but 0 is not halfway between s and r).

Together the two statements are sufficient, because they guarantee that only case b) above is possible.

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by durgesh79 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:33 am
Thanks for the explaination.

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by s_raizada » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:20 pm
Excellent explanation!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by gmat009 » Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:36 am
Ian Stewart wrote:Note first that we can rephrase the question. It's asking: is r = -s ?

The answer is C. The second statement is not sufficient, because s (and t) might be positive or negative. From statement 2 alone, we have two possibilities:

a) -s is to the right of t (which can happen if s < 0)
b) -s is to the left of t

In case b), r = -s. In case a), however, r < t < -s, so r will not be equal to -s (and if someone wants an example with numbers, note that Statement 2 will be true if t = -1, s = -2, and r = -4, but 0 is not halfway between s and r).

Together the two statements are sufficient, because they guarantee that only case b) above is possible.
Can someone plz. explain this. In both a & b cases I am calculating distance as t-r=t-(-s) and regardless of whether -s is to the right or left of t getting equal distance.
I am not understanding this " In case a), however, r < t < -s, so r will not be equal to -s "

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by Rashmi1804 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:13 am
@gmat009: Just in case if you havent already gotten it.....

Consider stmt 2) distance between t and r is equal to distance between t and -s
two cases are possible from this hint:

case i:
if t:r =t:-s and -S IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF T ==> <------r(-s)---0-----s----t------> i.e, r= -s in which case, 0 lies between r and s.
eg: <--------(-2)---0----(2)-----4--->

case ii
If t:r =t:-s and -S IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF T ==>
<---------r-------s---t---0-----(-s)-------> i.e, s , r and t are negative. and so 0 doesnt lie in between r and s.

eg: <-----(r=-4)--------(s=-2)----(t=-1)----0---------(-s=2)---->

even in this case dist between t:r= -1-(-4) = 3 and -s:t =2-(-1) = 3, though r and -s are not equal. So we need stmt:1 to know where S is.

HTH!!

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by Rashmi1804 » Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:10 pm
hey....whats wrong with the sentence ?????

Just in case & if.......redundant ?? :roll:

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by sanju09 » Thu May 06, 2010 1:33 am
Rashmi1804 wrote:hey....whats wrong with the sentence ?????

Just in case & if.......redundant ?? :roll:
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by ssuarezo » Thu May 06, 2010 10:46 am
Rashmi1804 wrote:@gmat009: Just in case if you havent already gotten it.....

HTH!!
Thanks for the explanation
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by sashish007 » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:22 am
Rashmi1804 wrote:case ii
If t:r =t:-s and -S IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF T ==>
<---------r-------s---t---0-----(-s)-------> i.e, s , r and t are negative. and so 0 doesnt lie in between r and s.

eg: <-----(r=-4)--------(s=-2)----(t=-1)----0---------(-s=2)---->

even in this case dist between t:r= -1-(-4) = 3 and -s:t =2-(-1) = 3, though r and -s are not equal. So we need stmt:1 to know where S is.

HTH!!
@Rashmi1804: Can you elaborate on case ii please?

I accounted for
[2] as |t-r| = |t-(-s)| which will yield 2 cases,
.........t-r = t+s | t-r = -(t+s)
...............-r=s | t-r = -t-s
......................| t= (r-s)/2

thanks
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