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Problem Solving — algebra and arithmetic (GMAT Focus Edition)
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by jitsy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 8:23 pm
Hi everyone,

I encountered the question below in Drill 11 of the Quant section of 'Cracking the New GMAT 2013' by Princeton Review.

Are X and Y integers?

(1) the product XY is an integer
(2) X + Y is an integer

The book states 'C' as the answer - I think the answer could be E. Can someone who has looked into this, or otherwise, please explain.

Thanks a lot.
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by [email protected] » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:37 am
Hi jitsy,

This question can be solved rather easily with the Empowergmat tactic TEST IT:

The question asks "Are X and Y both integers?" This is a Yes/No question and you're looking to see if the answer is Always Yes, Always No, or inconsistent.

Fact 1 tells us that XY = integer

If X = 1 and Y = 2, then you have an integer and the answer to the question is YES
If X = 1/2 and Y = 4, then you have an integers and the answer to the question is NO
Inconsistent = INSUFFICIENT.

Fact 2 tells us that X + Y = integer

If X = 1 and Y = 2, then you have an integer and the answer is YES
If X = 1/2 and Y = 1/2, then you have an integer and the answer NO
Inconsistent = INSUFFICIENT

Combining Facts, you can see that you already have a "TEST case" that fits both:
X = 1, Y=2 .....the answer is YES
X = 1, Y = 1 .......YES
X = 2, Y = 3 ........YES

No matter what numbers you TEST, as long as you're following the rules laid out in both FACTS, then you'll ALWAYS have a YES answer. There is no alternative situation.

Always YES = Consistent = SUFFICIENT.

Final Answer: C (Both Facts taken together = SUFFICIENT)

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by jitsy » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:42 pm
Thanks a lot! Really appreciate your detailed explanation.

However, if you consider √2 and -√2 to be X and Y respectively, both statement 1) and statement 2) are satisfied [√2*(-√2) = -2 which is an integer and √2 + (-√2) = 0 which is also an integer]. And of course, √2 and -√2 are not integers.

Please let me know if this is not correct.

Thanks again.
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by [email protected] » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:50 pm
Hi Jitsy,

You bring up an interesting, and valid, point. When considering positive/negative radicals, the answer would be E. Did this question come with a written explanation? And if so, did the explanation match the information provided by the original prompt? It's possible that there is an errata error or typo in the original prompt. Barring that error on the Writer's Part, your answer would stand; E would be congrats. From a deduction standpoint, that's very nice work.

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by jitsy » Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:26 am
Thank you.

Yes, the question did come with an explanation which more or less matched with your previous explanation. Is there a way you know I can let Princeton know about this so that this can be rectified in the future editions of the book? Thank you.
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by [email protected] » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:20 am
Hi Jitsy,

I don't work for The Princeton Review, so I'm not sure about that company's policies about errors/errata in its materials and how quickly that company fixes them. I imagine the book/material comes with some kind of contact information (email or phone number), so that's would likely be the place to start.

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:22 am
jitsy wrote:Is there a way you know I can let Princeton know about this so that this can be rectified in the future editions of the book? Thank you.
PR also has its own forum here on BTG: https://www.beatthegmat.com/ask-a-prince ... e-f47.html

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by send2dar » Sat Jul 13, 2013 6:19 am
[quote="jitsy"]Thanks a lot! Really appreciate your detailed explanation.

However, if you consider √2 and -√2 to be X and Y respectively, both statement 1) and statement 2) are satisfied [√2*(-√2) = -2 which is an integer and √2 + (-√2) = 0 which is also an integer]. And of course, √2 and -√2 are not integers.

Please let me know if this is not correct.

Thanks again.[/quote]

Good question and also well reasoned answer. You are right, E is correct.
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by Anthony Russomanno » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:40 pm
Hi Jitsy,
Great job noticing that numbers such as square roots should also be considered in the explanation to this question. I submitted your question/comment to our editorial team who manages our Random House titles and has an email address so that readers can report errata and problems ([email protected]). Some books, including Cracking the GMAT, have online lists of known errata as part of the online entitlements for those books. Editorial also maintains lists of reported/known errata and the update process for books always starts with a review of those known problems.

So they'd like to confirm that the answer is (E) and we'll get the explanation updated for the next edition of the book - again thank you. And here is the answer explanation from our team:

(E) To answer this yes-no question, plug in. Start by choosing two numbers that satisfy statement (1). For example, x = 2 and y = 3 satisfy statement (1) because 2 × 3 = 6 which is an integer. The answer to the question "are x and y integers?" is 'yes' for these numbers. Next, pick new numbers that satisfy the statement but try to get an answer of 'no' to the question. If x = -√2 and y = √2, statement (1) is satisfied because the product of x and y is −2, an integer. However, the answer to the question is now 'no'. Since it's possible to get both an answer of 'yes' and an answer of 'no' with numbers that satisfy the statement, statement (1) is insufficient and the possible answers are (B), (C) and (E). Next, pick numbers that satisfy statement (2). Both sets of numbers that satisfied statement (1) also satisfy statement (2). So, it's possible to find numbers that produce both an answer of 'yes' and an answer of 'no' for statement (2). Hence, statement (2) is insufficient, so eliminate (B). Since these numbers satisfy both statements, it also means that the combined statements are insufficient. The answer is (E).
jitsy wrote:Thanks a lot! Really appreciate your detailed explanation.

However, if you consider √2 and -√2 to be X and Y respectively, both statement 1) and statement 2) are satisfied [√2*(-√2) = -2 which is an integer and √2 + (-√2) = 0 which is also an integer]. And of course, √2 and -√2 are not integers.

Please let me know if this is not correct.

Thanks again.
Anthony Russomanno | MA, MBA
National Director of Educational Partnerships, The Princeton Review
800-2Review | www.PrincetonReview.com
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by jitsy » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:54 pm
Thank you Anthony. I appreciate the proactiveness!
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by dreamoo » Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:05 am
This is unfortunate but in the 2014 book it's still not corrected! Answer key to drill still says Choice C.
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by Anthony Russomanno » Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:16 am
dreamoo wrote:This is unfortunate but in the 2014 book it's still not corrected! Answer key to drill still says Choice C.
Thank you. I have taken to our editors so they can take the steps to correct this error.
Anthony Russomanno | MA, MBA
National Director of Educational Partnerships, The Princeton Review
800-2Review | www.PrincetonReview.com
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