I nailed it! 720 (94th percentile) – 44 Quant 44 Verbal

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I'm proud to say that on January 7th I nailed the GMAT. I got a 720 (94th percentile) - 44 quant (69th percentile), 44 verbal (97th percentile). I also got back my essays and I got a 6 on both. I want to thank all of the contributors to this forum for helping me in my preparation. In particular, Eric, Ian, Stuart Kovinsky, Ron Purewal, and Stacey Koprince- your numerous insightful posts really helped me.

Since this forum has given me so much already, I want to try to give something back and share my thoughts on how I was successful, despite being someone who
A) Is not very good at standardized tests
B) Is easily distracted
C) Thinks slowly and has trouble working quickly
D) Is very moody, temperamental, and gets frustrated easily
E) Had a horrible encounter with the LSAT a month earlier

I am going to leave actual advice to the experts and just explain what I think worked for me. I am betting that there are other people out there like me that may find some benefit from hearing about my experience.

I studied exclusively for the GMAT for 4 weeks. I don't have an accurate initial test score because I only did the quant section in Barrons. I got about half the questions right if I recall. I also had spent the 3 months prior studying for the LSAT, so my RC and CR skills were pretty good. My SC was terrible and my quant needed some serious work. I would divide my success into the following categories:

1. Focus - As I mentioned above, I have trouble focusing. I space out during study-time, particularly during verbal. I space out during timed tests. I find myself reading and re-reading passages, arguments, SC sentences. I will read something for 5 minutes, space-out into a more interesting topic, and then not be able to tell you 1 thing about what I just read. To beat this problem, I knew I had to work really hard to remove as many distractions from my life as possible. Anything that could potentially serve as the subject of a space-out had to be removed. So, conversations, confrontations, politics, or anything else that could distract me were cut out. Some of these steps were kind of bold, but I knew what needed to be done. So, I stopped following the news and politics. I stopped listening to the radio (this was especially hard because I love conservative talk radio. Yet, this was especially important because I tend to get fired up on political issues, particularly when I start thinking about certain politicians who really get under my skin....but I digress). Instead I just listened to music in the car. I never watched TV, but if I had, then I would have stopped that too. I even stopped reading the news on my Blackberry. Additionally, I did everything possible to remain calm, relaxed, and peaceful. I avoided confrontational topics. For example, my mother-in-law is into herbal medicine and natural foods and that kind of garbage. It irritates me when she drops that stuff off at our house, but again I knew what had to be done. So, I just smiled and said thank you. When my kids started whining and fighting, instead of trying to discipline them, I just offered them candy. When my wife asked me to clean the kitchen and change the baby's diapers while she sat on the couch, I just smiled and asked what else I could do to help. When some jerk cut me off in traffic, I just kept all ten fingers firmly attached to the wheel. My motto was to seek peace and tranquility. I imagined myself sitting in a Suisse village and eating cheese and holding a sign that said "I am neutral". I also tried to stay completely focused on GMAT material. When I went to the bathroom, I had Beat the Gmat on my Blackberry instead of Fox News (more about this below). No newspapers, no magazines, just GMAT questions. Amazingly, it worked. I was able to focus and my space-outs became few and far between - a little more "spaced out", you could say.

2. Attitude - I told myself that I would beat the GMAT. One of the things I like about this website is the name. Beating the GMAT is more than just a goal. It's an attitude. To get an 800, you have to be pretty sharp. But to get a 720, I am convinced that you do not have to be that smart. You have to have some moderate level of intelligence, but not a tremendously high level. However, the one thing that you must have is a positive, Beat-the-GMAT attitude. The main reason that I failed at the LSAT a month earlier was because I was scared of it. I was intimidated by certain features of that exam and, in the end, the LSAT took me out to the woodshed, instead of the opposite. I put it in my mind that it was within my abilities to beat the GMAT. I actually had it in my head for the weeks leading up to test day that I would get a 720. That was the score that was actually in my head going into the test and I think it helped me psychologically.

I think it's also important to be excited about the GMAT to the point where you actually enjoy GMAT study. The way I made GMAT more enjoyable was that I found practical applications for my new GMAT skills, which helped motivate me to study and keep me focused. Here are some things I did to make the different sections of the GMAT more enjoyable and interesting:

SC - I think SC and Quant are much more similar than people realize. SC is really just problem-solving sentences instead of equations. Matching verb tense or pronouns is kind of like finding a common denominator or solving for a value in an equation. For example, if the first part is plural, then last part is plural; if X=3, then solve for Y. When I started looking at SC more like problem-solving, I started to enjoy it more. I also saw that learning grammar helped the quality of my application essays. I realized that the rules of grammar were not just a bunch of arcane guidelines, but they actually helped me communicate more clearly and concisely. I even found myself speaking more grammatically correct. I practiced speaking with correct grammar and it improved my ability to communicate ideas. Someone even commented that I was especially well-spoken!

CR - I really enjoyed applying my new critical analysis skills in the real world. By just listening to people I knew, I recognized flawed assumptions and gaps in logic everywhere I turned. Of course I was careful not to point out every flaw in logic that came out of someone else's mouth, particularly family members, but I did enjoy the new ability to pinpoint why someone's statements were illogical. Politicians and media outlets are guilty of this on a regular basis and they provide a great opportunity to hone your CR skills. (I will avoid listing names, but I have noticed that certain leaders of the free world and prominent congressional leaders of a certain majority party in an unnamed country have a particular propensity for illogical arguments...)

Quant - I enjoyed just being quicker at math. I practiced calculating prices and averages and other random numbers in my head. I think it feels good to be more mathematically inclined. I also just enjoyed sitting down and working on problems. I could sit down for 6 hours straight just working out problems.

RC - This is the one section for which I was never able to find a practical application. Maybe it improved my ability to read something awful and boring, but that's about it.

3. Diligent and EFFECTIVE study - I was consistently 6-8 hours a day for 4 weeks. I spent the first 2 weeks on test prep books and Beat the GMAT resources. The last 2 weeks I bought the OG book and just worked on that. I think other books are good for getting down concepts, but their questions are always going to be either too hard or too easy. In particular, the wrong answers to questions are not as likely to be the kinds of wrong answers that actually appear on the GMAT. I have seen the experts point this out time and again. That's why the best thing is to learn the concepts and go through OG multiple times. I wish I had spent more time just working on OG questions. My Quant in particular could have used more improvement. I did not even get through all the OG questions, but if I had to do it again, I would go through OG 2-3 times. Also, they have some really good explanations. I particularly liked the SC answers. They gave clear explanations on SC concepts that are often unclear. Also, people often ask what to read to get used to good grammar - Wall St Journal, Economist, etc. I think the best thing to read is the OG. Read their intros and their explanations to questions. Not only is OG grammatically well-written, but it's written according to OG's grammar guidelines, which is the most important thing.

I found this website really helpful. I used it to gain clarity on questions that OG did not explain well or to GMAT Prep questions. Some of the resources are good, but some are kind of over-the-top (i.e. some of those very extensive math resources are way more than you need. Same thing with the verbal materials. I looked at some of those idioms lists and grammar rules, but not too much.) As I mentioned above, I took Beat the Gmat with me on my Blackberry into the bathroom. When I had doctors appointments (I actually had a few during my 4 weeks of study), I was doing quant or SC questions on my Blackberry. I also read some of the articles on my blackberry. I found that doing this was a good use of my time and it kept me focused. The other thing I did a little of, was print out some RC passages or idioms lists or something like that to take them with me to the doctor or bathroom. Just reading that stuff was helpful to keep me focused and familiar with the material. Another thing I did was pick a Beat the GMAT expert and read through their posts. Going through Stuart's posts on quant or Stacey's on SC was a great way to find lots of insightful rules and tricks. They often have better explanations than OG.

4. Test Day focus and attitude - My test was at 8 am. I went to bed at 9 the night before and slept terribly. I was up at 12, 2, and 3. My back hurt. I was hot. I was cold. The baby was crying in the other room. Maybe I got 6 or 7 hours. I don't really know. My alarm went off at 5, as it always does. I awoke feeling kind of dazed and dizzy. The funny thing was that it didn't phase me because I was on a mission to destroy the GMAT. In my head, I was no longer eating cheese in a Suisse village. I was now a Navy Seal in the Suisse Alps. I envisioned myself as a highly-trained, disciplined sniper on a mission to pick off specific targets with great precision. I showered and went through my normal morning routine. I ate half of my breakfast right after my shower - a big 16 oz cup of coffee, a 16 oz cup of Tropicana OJ, cottage cheese with honey, and a banana. It was snowing that day, so I went to the test site early. I was still dazed, but I was pumped. I played my favorite music on the ride to the test and just kept telling myself that I would destroy the test. I was going to claim my score! I arrived early and ate the rest of my breakfast in the car - a peanut and butter and jelly sandwich and maybe 6 oz of water. I had thought about reviewing some idioms and my quant cheat sheet, but decided against it. Instead I just blasted my music in the parking lot and sang like an idiot (perhaps briefly distinguishing myself as a slightly different type of Navy Seal sniper). Any passer-by must have thought I was nuts and, in retrospect, I am surprised no one called security. The one thing that I did read the morning of my test was Ngufo's Beat the GMAT story. If you have not read it, I highly recommend reading it and possibly re-reading it the day of the test. I thought that it was a fantastically inspiring story of someone who just decided to succeed. https://www.beatthegmat.com/gmat-720-95- ... t7227.html

I entered the test center determined to destroy. I remained focused throughout the test. I spoke to no one else at the test center because I wanted to stay in the zone of focus and I did not want anyone else's nervousness to disturb me.

I blew through the essays. I actually enjoyed having the essays first (I know some people feel otherwise) because they are not very important and they served as a means for warming me up and getting my mind turned on. By the time I sat for Quant, I was locked and loaded for bear. During my breaks I ate peanut butter on crackers and took sips from a juice box. I forced myself to eat because I knew I needed the energy. I used the bathroom each time, washed my face and hair, and jumped up and down in the hall for 10 seconds. I arrived back at my seat each time with 30 seconds to spare. The Quant questions got hard very quickly. I knew it was a good thing and did not get frustrated when I struggled with a question. In retrospect, I think another week or two would have benefited my quant, but my verbal was very strong and I got the score I wanted.

I want to make a point about the essays. I am certainly no expert, but I did get a 6 on both, so I think my philosophy on writing them may have some value for someone. Basically, I think that anyone with a moderate command of English and some basic understanding of logic should be able to get a 6 on these. Many of the test prep books and other resources suggest writing these long essays with several paragraphs (6 or 7 paragraphs total). I think that's crazy. I wrote 4 paragraphs on my analysis of an argument essay and 5 paragraphs on analysis of an issue and I got a 6 on each. I found that reading 2 and only 2 things was useful. First is Stacey's Koprince's article on the essays.
https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2009/12/ ... -no-thanks

What she says is simple and logical.

Myohmy's template and philosophy are great. Although, I think some of his language is verbose and unnecessary ("evidentiary support" can also just be "evidence")

https://www.beatthegmat.com/argument-ess ... 38032.html


That's it. If someone has specific questions or comments for me, please feel free to ask. I have a debt of gratitude to this website and its contributors so I am happy to help out anyone.

Regards,
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by asherman » Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:33 pm
You nailed it alright! thanks for posting!

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by 1weektotestdateeek » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:05 am
This post is officially my favourite post. I even prefer it to Ursula's and Ngufo's. Unfortunately, I haven't used this site much. My main focus had been to study and practice loads. I feel ready but I am super nervous (Eeeeeekkkk!!!) and I was looking for a post that would focus specifically on mental preparation and this has done it for me. I'm building a new super-alterego now that is aggressive, doesn't panic or have Psycho Meltdown (ME). I respect the GMAT but I'm gonna have to not fear it.

And we have a very similar sort of attention-span. My test is next Tuesday. This time in 5days, I will be an hour in!! The plan is to do practice tests everyday till then and study for the rest of the day. I want to be accustomed to doing the test so that I'm not in shock. I'm definitely feeling like this is a battlefield. Fight and Kill it or Die. No plan B!!!! Not hitting 720 = Death, that's the way I'm seeing it!!!

Tips I got from your post are in my flash card and I'll have you know, on the day of my test, they'll be the only thing I'll be reading apart from some other notes!!

Okay, enough blabbing, cross your fingers and wish me luck.

I will come back here to tell how it went. I'm in the GMAT, no-fear zone now!! My state of mind is, I can do anything, I'm not afraid of the GMAT!!

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by Osirus@VeritasPrep » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:27 am
Congratulations! That's pretty huge, you have to feel great after that. I can't believe how the percentiles are dropping every year though. 720 is supposed to be 95 percentile, I guess more people are taking it now.
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by obsessed_GMAT » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:39 am
Congrtulations!!! Im glad to know that your efforts paid off. All the Best.

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by VicAnn4 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:51 am
Thanks so much for sharing! I take my GMAT on Monday, and your post is definitely a confidence booster. I'm going to be be a fierce Seal too!

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by sal2 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:30 am
For the final 5 days, I do not recommend taking a practice test every day. During my last 2 weeks of study I only used the OG. Since GMAT Prep only has 2 tests, you would have to take practice tests from some other study book, which is probably not a great idea at this point - they will be either too hard (potentially giving you a negative attitude), too easy, or not have precisely GMAT-structured questions. So, it's not a great use of your time. I took a GMAT Prep 4 days before my GMAT and another 2 days before. Even if you already took them, I think it's a good idea to re-take them. If you already know the question, just wait out the extra time (2 minutes for quant, 1.75 minutes for verbal) so that it's a little more accurate. If you do especially well, which is likely on a re-take, you can go around thinking how you are going to kill the GMAT because the GMAT Prep is the most accurate simulation of the GMAT. I got a 740 2 days before the GMAT on a re-take and I think it was a good confidence-booster. If you don't do well, use some reverse psychology and just tell yourself that you are just practicing an "exam experience" and not interested in your actual score or try to think of some other excuse why you were distracted or something else. On my GMAT Prep 4 days out, I got a 650 and that's what I told myself. The other thing I did was blocks of timed OG questions (10 or 20 at a time). That helped me get used to working within the average amount of time for each question. Focusing on OG materials is the most important thing. The day before the exam, try not to do too much studying (1-3 hours max). Be careful what foods you eat the day before and try to relax.

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by ajith » Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:30 am
Well Done Sal2, and thanks for the detailed debrief. I can certainly pick up some points from there.
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by money9111 » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:44 am
Congratulations! Your score is well deserved! Time to move onto the next step in the application process but I know you're glad that hurdle is over.

One thing is I don't think I'll be taking a CAT exam everyday leading up to the actually test... ;-) but that's just me!
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by prinit » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:31 pm
Congratulations !!! Thanks for the detailed post.

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by 1weektotestdateeek » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:18 pm
Thanks Sal2,

I think I forgot to say congratulations. So Congratulations on your score. Yes, I think on Monday I'll study till lunchtime and then relax for the rest of the day and completely clear my mind.

My panic seems to come back every time I try to read a RC essay under 3 minutes. That is my main focus now. I have a 41.5 average score on the Quant. 39 on one and 44 on the other but my Verbal is a Pathetic 30 and I have read everywhere, the key is practice which I have done loads and staying calm which I'm trying to. Truth is the verbal scares me and everytime an RC passage comes up, I panic!! This is my main reason for wanting to do the test over so that I can stop panicking by Tuesday! Because I've read most of the hard ones on the OG, I've gone and got a few very boring business magazines and I think I'll read them non stop for a few hours to help me with it.

I do time myself with OG practices now. 19minutes for 10 math questions and 15 for 10 verbal. What I think I need to do is to spend only a minute on SC questions which I'm quite good at and give the other 45seconds to RC.

Thanks for your advice!! Deffo very helpful!!

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by harsh.champ » Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:23 pm
Congrats sal2,
720 is really an amazing score.
You must have really worked hard for it.
Also,I noticed that you got similar scores in both Quant(44) and Verbal(44).I have seen that very few ppl get such scores.
Also,an awesome de-brief.
Especially the "FOCUS" part.
It really motivated me when I read that part.
Also,here and there ,I picked off lots of info from your de-brief.
Thanks for taking the time to write all of your experiences.It will be beneficial to the whole BTG community.
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