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by vineetbatra » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:18 am
The state has proposed new rules that would set minimum staffing levels for nurses, rules intended to ensure that at least one nurse is assigned for every four patients put through triage in a hospital emergency room.


A. rules intended to ensure that at least one nurse is assigned for every four patients put through triage in a hospital emergency room

B. rules with the intent of ensuring one nurse at least to be assigned for every four patients to be put through triage in a hospital emergency room
C. rules intending to ensure at least one nurse is assigned for every four patients in a hospital emergency room put through triage
D. with the intent of ensuring that at least one nurse should be assigned for every four patients in a hospital emergency room that are put through triage
E. and this is intended to ensure one nurse at least to be assigned for every four patients put through triage in a hospital emergency room

OA is A

My question OA seems to be a run on sentence. Rules Intended to ensure seems like an independent sentence and state has proposed is also an independent sentence
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by thephoenix » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:27 am
me too in the same boat of doubt, however A is the best among the rest
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by akhpad » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:34 am
Here, I believe Correct Idiom
Intend to
Intent on

and

ensure that

Based on these, I have selected A.

It seems to be run on sentence.

Can someone explain?
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by vineetbatra » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:47 am
I am glad to hear that I am not the only one with this problem.

Also what is wrong with Choice E. I see 2 problems one is This cannot stand alone by itself it should have been this rule, second is that E needs a "That" after to ensure. Can someone confirm this?

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by sumanr84 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:09 am
vineetbatra wrote:I am glad to hear that I am not the only one with this problem.

Also what is wrong with Choice E. I see 2 problems one is This cannot stand alone by itself it should have been this rule, second is that E needs a "That" after to ensure. Can someone confirm this?

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this rule should be these rules as in the previous half, we have new rules .
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by samarpan_bschool » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:02 pm
@vineetbatra - Just to add to your point, the placement of 'atleast' after 'nurse' changes the meaning of the sentence. This is the case with option B also.
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vineetbatra wrote:I am glad to hear that I am not the only one with this problem.

Also what is wrong with Choice E. I see 2 problems one is This cannot stand alone by itself it should have been this rule, second is that E needs a "That" after to ensure. Can someone confirm this?

Thanks,

Vineet
this rule should be these rules as in the previous half, we have new rules .
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by gauravgundal » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:01 pm
IMO A:

rules intended to ensure that at least one nurse is assigned for every four patients put through triage in a hospital emergency room

B. rules with the intent of ensuring one nurse at least to be assigned for every four patients to be put through triage in a hospital emergency room
--Changes meaning of the sentence --rules doesn't have an intention ...
Second :bold part is incorrect--misplaced at least..


C. rules intending to ensure at least one nurse is assigned for every four patients in a hospital emergency room put through triage
The state has proposed some rules, so word 'rules' is indirect object,
rules intending shows as if subject 'rules' is doing some action ... that is wrong.

D. with the intent of ensuring that at least one nurse should be assigned for every four patients in a hospital emergency room that are put through triage

with - modifies the noun nurses

E. and this is intended to ensure one nurse at least to be assigned for every four patients put through triage in a hospital emergency room

this -- refers to what?, as this is singular because it is followed by singular verb it can't refer back to rules.
Answer choice is wrong
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by tanviet » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:57 pm
A is not run on sentence which have not proper conjuction

A is resumptive sentence in which one noun is repeated to go with its modifier at the end of sentence. the purpose of repeatation is to make sure that long modifier touchs and refers clearly to the noun.
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by vineetbatra » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:11 pm
I googled and did not find anything on the resumptive sentence.

Also, how do I know whether a sentence is resumptive or it is truly run-on?
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by akahuja143 » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:21 pm
A is not a run sentence, as second part is acting a modifier .. it is a appositive .
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by akhpad » Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:11 am
I found explanation for this problem something like this at some place
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The original sentence on the face of it does not sound perfect. However, if you examine the other options, each option adds some unnecessary words and some get the tenses wrong as well. The original sentence stinks the least. So we go with A.
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Yes, we understood all others have error.
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by Stacey Koprince » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:34 pm
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Tricky! As some have noted above, A does not represent a run-on sentence. Chop out just that part (and I'm adding a "the" at the beginning):

"The rules intended to ensure that at least one nurse is assigned for every four patients put through triage in a hospital emergency room."

"Intended" can be two things (at least!): it can be the simple past form of the verb "to intend" or it can be the past participle of the verb "to intend." A past participle by itself is not a complete, conjugated verb form.

So, which is it here? Well, if we're going to use "intended" as the simple past tense form, then the subject has to be the person or thing that is intending to do something. For example:

"I intended to study last night, but then I fell asleep." I am the one doing the action: intending to do something.

What do we have as the potential subject in this case? The rules. Can the rules intend to do something?

Nope. We can intend to do something by making a rule. Rules can BE intended to do something. But the rules can't intend to do something themselves. If we want a conjugated verb here to make this a sentence, then we need to write this in passive voice. (Passive voice is used when the subject is not actually performing the action of the verb; instead, the subject is having that action performed on it by something or someone else.) For example:

"The rules are intended to ensure X." (Someone has made some rules and that someone intends for the rules to ensure X.)
"The rules were intended to ensure X." (Same thing as above, except in past tense.)

So, that bit after the comma is not a stand-alone sentence. It's a modifier. As a result, choice A is not a run-on.
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by lunarpower » Fri Apr 16, 2010 10:55 pm
Stacey Koprince wrote:So, that bit after the comma is not a stand-alone sentence. It's a modifier. As a result, choice A is not a run-on.
yep.

here are two other threads that discuss this construction (it's called an "absolute phrase", if you're interested in using a search engine to locate more examples):

https://www.beatthegmat.com/sound-can-tr ... 41971.html

https://www.beatthegmat.com/sc-with-surf ... tml#232639 (the thread on which i actually learned what this construction was called!)
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by thephoenix » Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:19 am
@stacey and @ron
so just to wind up the things.
can we say that the take away from here is whenever we face a comma + -ed form of verb , we need to ensure whether its a simple past tense or a participle form.
for it to be a simple past there has to be a subject performing the action.
if its a past participle form then it needs a conjugated verb and the sentence has to be written in passive form,or else its a modifier modifying preceeding clause.
am i making a sense......
please correct me if i am wrong....
i need to put it in my records
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by lunarpower » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:52 am
thephoenix wrote:@stacey and @ron
so just to wind up the things.
can we say that the take away from here is whenever we face a comma + -ed form of verb , we need to ensure whether its a simple past tense or a participle form.
for it to be a simple past there has to be a subject performing the action.
if its a past participle form then it needs a conjugated verb and the sentence has to be written in passive form,or else its a modifier modifying preceeding clause.
am i making a sense......
please correct me if i am wrong....
i need to put it in my records
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it seems as though everything you're saying is correct. still, make sure that you don't go overboard on the formal analysis -- remember that an ounce of recognition is worth a pound of classification, as it were.
in other words, simply being able to recognize these constructions as correct/incorrect is hundreds of times more important than being able to classify them grammatically. accordingly, if you (understandably) feel overwhelmed by all these random constructions, you should cut out some of the effort you are making to classify all of them; if you can simply look at them and say "correct" or "incorrect", that's actually the only skill set that you need at the end of the day.

good luck.
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