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"Poor" Gradschool GPA, Great Undergrad GPA ???

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by Runram87 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:53 am
Ok. I feel weird even asking b/c it's slightly deceitful but i wanted to get someone's knowledgeable take.

backstory:
I received a undergrad business degree at a top 20 school with a GPA in high 3's. My GMAT is in the low 700's. Above average work experience at a IT / Business consulting firm. My targets are the Top 20 MBA schools.

I did an 1-year graduate program at a Top 10 university right after undergrad. The program was in a different but related area to my undergrad degree (it combined business operations and engineering). Unfortunately I received a 3.0 GPA in that program, which was the lowest possible GPA to graduate. I did great in the operations courses (mid 3's) but terrible in the engineering courses (mid 2's).

Potential Resolution:
One thought I got from an older MBA was to not even report that I went to grad school b/c the GPA is an unnecessary red flag on a good application. He said b/c it is only a year I could say I traveled and took time off. My fear is that in today's information age any school could quickly pull up that I went to school and throw out my application. Do school's have that ability to research your academic history (based on on SS# for example)?

What are your thoughts / recommendations? Is the suggestion I received outlandish?
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Source: — Ask an MBA Admissions Consultant |

Runram87 wrote:Ok. I feel weird even asking b/c it's slightly deceitful but i wanted to get someone's knowledgeable take.

backstory:
I received a undergrad business degree at a top 20 school with a GPA in high 3's. My GMAT is in the low 700's. Above average work experience at a IT / Business consulting firm. My targets are the Top 20 MBA schools.

I did an 1-year graduate program at a Top 10 university right after undergrad. The program was in a different but related area to my undergrad degree (it combined business operations and engineering). Unfortunately I received a 3.0 GPA in that program, which was the lowest possible GPA to graduate. I did great in the operations courses (mid 3's) but terrible in the engineering courses (mid 2's).

Potential Resolution:
One thought I got from an older MBA was to not even report that I went to grad school b/c the GPA is an unnecessary red flag on a good application. He said b/c it is only a year I could say I traveled and took time off. My fear is that in today's information age any school could quickly pull up that I went to school and throw out my application. Do school's have that ability to research your academic history (based on on SS# for example)?

What are your thoughts / recommendations? Is the suggestion I received outlandish?
Most schools do a background check on admitted applicants. I suspect that the background check would turn up your year in grad school. And since most MBA programs require that you list ALL post secondary education taken for credit, you will be in big hot water for withholding or lying about that information. I recommend you disclose it, but also provide an explanation of the GGPA.

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by mistressoftheuniverse » Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:09 pm
I echo what Linda says, but also want to add that yes, all institutions you went to are on file with the National Student Clearinghouse. I don't know if in the background checks they use the NSC, but I'm thinking there is a good chance they do so I would definitely report it. Anyway, I don't think a 3.0 GPA from a top graduate program in what sounds like a difficult area of study sounds bad--especially coupled with your higher UG GPA and strong GMAT score. However, I would make sure to address why you need an MBA if you already have a graduate degree in a related area.
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