GPREP - Perimeter

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Re: GPREP - Perimeter

by Ossa » Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:14 pm
Hi,

An isoceles triangle is one where at least two of the sides are equal. Since this is also a right triangle, then the hypotenuse is equal to the square root of (a^2+a^2)=SQRT of (2a^2)=a*SQRT{2}
Accordingly, if we know the value of a, we can get the value of the hypotenuse.
We can get the value of a from the permiter which we know is equal to 16+16SQRT {2}, and is also equal to the sum of all the sides, and so is equal to a+a+a*SQRT{2}
so a* (2+SQRT{2})=16+16SQRT {2}
so a*(2+SQRT{2})=16(1+SQRT {2})
multiply both sides by SQRT{2}, and you get:
a*SQRT{2}*(2+SQRT{2})=16(2+SQRT{2}), so a*SQRT{2}=16 which is equal to the hypotenuse

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by boy141 » Tue Nov 25, 2008 9:36 am
Ossa, I cannot understand where you got
"16 √2(2+√2)" especially the "(2+√2)" part because you said multiply both sides by "√2" how did you gain a 2 in "(2+√2)"?

This is where I am in this math problem:
I am attempting to find "a"

a + a + a√2 =16 +16√2
2a + a√2 = 16 + 16√2
a(2 + √2) = 16(1 + √2)

now multiply both sides by √2

a√2(2 + √2) = 16 √2(1+√2)

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by lunarpower » Wed Nov 26, 2008 3:48 am
boy141 wrote:Ossa, I cannot understand where you got
"16 √2(2+√2)" especially the "(2+√2)" part because you said multiply both sides by "√2" how did you gain a 2 in "(2+√2)"?

This is where I am in this math problem:
I am attempting to find "a"

a + a + a√2 =16 +16√2
2a + a√2 = 16 + 16√2
a(2 + √2) = 16(1 + √2)

now multiply both sides by √2

a√2(2 + √2) = 16 √2(1+√2)
now distribute the √2 into the parentheses ON THE RIGHT SIDE ONLY:
a√2(2 + √2) = 16(√2 + 2) -- note the second term because √2√2 = 2
the terms in parentheses are now identical, so we have a√2 = 16.
since a√2 is the hypotenuse, there's no need to isolate 'a'; you have your answer right there. the hypotenuse is 16.

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if you didn't figure that out, you can also isolate 'a' by division, as in any other algebra problem in which you need to remove a coefficient from something. the only thing that's different is that the coefficient here is a binomial (2 + √2), so you have to know how to divide by those.

a(2 + √2) = 16 + 16√2
therefore
a = (16 + 16√2) / (2 + √2)
multiply top and bottom by the CONJUGATE of 2 + √2, which is 2 - √2:
a = (16 + 16√2)(2 - √2) / (2 + √2)(2 - √2)
by the difference of squares formula, the bottom is 4 - 2 = 2.
the top multiplies out to 32 - 16√2 + 32√2 - 32, or 16√2.
therefore, a = 16√2 / 2 = 8√2.
the hypotenuse is therefore 8√2 times √2, or 16.

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by boy141 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:42 am
Thanks man!! I got it now. I was like brain-farting.