79% on Math....Retake the GMAT?

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79% on Math....Retake the GMAT?

by AarondoesSA » Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:20 am
Hi,

I just took the GMAT yesterday and received a 710 (92%). My Math score was a 47 which is lower than I had gotten on previous practice exams (48-49) but my verbal score was about my target. So, my question is should I take the GMAT again if I want to make the "maybe" or "competitive" pile at the best of the best B-schools? I guess what I'm asking: Is my Math score too low (since I heard many times schools focus on this)? I'm a little frustrated b/c I was deducted 45 seconds since the guy didn't log me in until 45 seconds after the allowed 10 minutes of break and I'm thinking that might have screwed me up

Here's my profile:

-Top Mgmt Consulting firm past 2.5 yrs

a) Took 3 months off 2008 to work for Obama campaign

b) Actively involved in Big Brother, Big Sister (I don't really like mentioning this kind of stuff on an MBA application b/c I think it's irrelevant but I guess that's what people do these days)



- Cornell Univ. B.A. in Government (3.59 GPA) 2006

a) Tested out of Calc A/B in college and then took Calc B/C and got a C+ (the instructur's monotone voice made me want to shoot myself and I just didn't give a crap not knowing it could be so pivotal 4 yrs later)

b) Only other quant course in college was Business Statistics. I received an "A"

c) Spent entire junior year studying abroad in Italy where classes were conducted solely in Italians with other Italians


So, I'm not planning on applying until next year or the year after that but does it make sense to take the test again? Will a B-school look at my Quant score and automatically put me in the "rejected" pile beforehand? I'm going to be traveling all over South America this next year so I won't really have time to study.

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Aaron
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by Eliot » Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:15 pm
AarondoesSA,

Thanks for your note. As you can guess, in an ideal world you would get above an 80% in the Quant portion of the GMAT and have A's in business foundation courses such as Calculus, Statistics, Accounting and Economics. You mentioned that you were a government major with a 79% GMAT Quant score, a C+ in Calculus and an A in Statistics. Thus, you have an uneven Quant record.

On the other hand, your overall academics (710 GMAT & 3.6 gpa from Cornell) are quite respectable. Assuming that you are performing well at work and in your activities, you would likely be competitive even without retaking the GMAT.

Rather than retake the GMAT, my suggestion is for you to take an Accounting class or Economics class and getting an A. (If you will be out of the country, then do a distance learning course). I would only retake the GMAT if you are absolutely sure you can add 20+ points to your GMAT and if you absolutely can't take a course given your travel schedule.

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by AarondoesSA » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:49 am
Thanks Eliot!

I should have mentioned that I also took Beginning Macroeconomics and Intermediate Macroeconomics at Cornell and received "A-" and an "A", respectively.

As for the Quant GMAT, are you proposing I do not take the GMAT again b/c if I do not receive +20 pts it will look bad? Or, b/c if I do not receive +20 pts, then it's just "wasted effort"? If it's wasted effort we're worried about...then I could try it again. If it's that if I don't get a 730, I look bad, then I may not take it again.

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by Eliot » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:15 am
AarondoesSA,

Thanks for the followup post. I am pleased to hear that you got As in your macroeconomics courses. (By the way, did you take microeconomics? Did you get As in your microeconomics courses as well?)

Basically, the adcom wants to make sure that you can handle the quant classes at business school. To assess this, they look at your grades in quant classes in college and the quant section of your GMAT. Since you have As in quant classes in college and a 710 overall GMAT score, then there is less need to retake the GMAT. Meaning, it is not imperative for you to retake the test.

However, if you are confident that you can get a higher Quant score while holding on to your existing verbal score, then feel free to retake the GMAT - it sounds like you have the time to do this. Basically, the risk of retaking it is that you might get a lower score. So, be sure to study hard so that you can mitigate this risk.

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by AarondoesSA » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:20 am
Thanks Eliot!

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by FutureMBAer » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:41 am
Eliot wrote:However, if you are confident that you can get a higher Quant score while holding on to your existing verbal score, then feel free to retake the GMAT - it sounds like you have the time to do this. Basically, the risk of retaking it is that you might get a lower score. So, be sure to study hard so that you can mitigate this risk.
Eliot - I posted a very similar question recently. I was disappointed with my score (680 V39 (86%) Q46 (77%)). I have a very strong quant background (B.S. in Electrical Eng'g w/ 3.9 GPA) and I am very confident I can pull up my Q score. I believe I can hold onto my V score, but not sure. You seem to imply that a lower score on a retake will be rather detrimental. I was under the impression that most schools will disregard the lower score and only consider the higher. Could you please elaborate if I am being misguided.

I am seeking admission in Fall 2010 to the following top schools: Wharton, Columbia, Stern, Tepper

Thank you.