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by avik.ch » Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:58 am
patanjali.purpose wrote:
IMO Pronoun can come before its noun, for example: Although she had signed a pledge of abstinence as an adolescent, Frances Willard was 35 years old before she chose to become a temperance activist.

B will still be incorrect if replace SHE with HELEN.

IMO B is incorrect because the sentence does not convey the idea properly: The first independent clause (IC) and 2nd IC are placed in parallel and therefore it appears as if the Ist IC does not play any role in "HELEN BEING THE best-known and well-respected African Americans..".
I actually used this same modifier concept to refer "she" with "helen", in my above post. But in this sentence there are two independent clause. ( I am discussing only about B)

In this sentence,

he went to the market and john bought some apples. ( is "he" referring to John, I don't think so) - B is same as this. I am Confused !!( I think Sekhar.kataria is telling this same point)
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by shekhar.kataria » Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:13 am
he went to the market and john bought some apples. ( is "he" referring to John, I don't think so) - B
Exactly this is the point. Here we have two independent clauses. So A pronoun in a first clase should have a referrent there in the first sentence only.

Ok to conclude. There can be following other scenarios where it can refer.

1. Subordinateclause, main clause ( Example that patanjali.purpose posted his post.
2. Or the first can act as a modifier.
3. Or the reverse arrangement of the current structure. Ram did X..... and he also did.....
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by patanjali.purpose » Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:46 am
avik.ch wrote: he went to the market and john bought some apples. ( is "he" referring to John, I don't think so) - B is same as this. I am Confused !!( I think Sekhar.kataria is telling this same point)
In this sentence, HE 'can' refer to John as the sentence is saying WENT TO MARKET ...AND BOUGHT SOMETHING. These two activties can be done by one person at the same time.

But in a sentence like "HE IS SLEEPING, AND JOHN IS EATING" - he cannot refer to John as one person cannot logically do sleeping and eating at the same time. This scenario of B is more like the example you mentioned. Therefore everything depends on the context and logicality of a sentence.
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