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SC 570 Out of America's fascination.... "that"??

by Sprite_TM » Wed May 20, 2009 5:50 pm
ok i know this question has been asked a few times and the replies aren't that clear. (to me)

i thought "that" has to modify a noun right before it, but in this sentence, market is soooo far away from "that"

soo...i am a bit confused

i initially picked c because i thought it was "antiques....that bring back" but after looking at it again, i think it is market that brings or "bringing"

anyways, i hope someone can clear the 'that" in the sentence for me. thanks


Out of America's fascination with all things antique have grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that are bringing back the chaise lounge, the overstuffed sofa, and the claw-footed bathtub.

(A) things antique have grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that are bringing
(B) things antique has grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that is bringing
(C) things that are antiques has grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that bring
(D) antique things have grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that are bringing
(E) antique things has grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that bring
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by kc_raj » Thu May 21, 2009 10:25 am
IMO B all things antique is awkward compared to all antique things in E

But E has a market that bring back present tense compared to original sentence that has "bringing back" present continous tense, B preserves this continous tense.

a market is the object of the main clause ", "that" is the relative pronoun replacing market in the adjective clause that is bringing........
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by agganitk » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:46 am
What is better ?

All things antique or All antique things.

antique is an adjective so it is modifying "things". Adjective should precede Noun.

but why questions has used "all things antique"
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by nibake » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:23 pm
That should refer to the NP (noun phrase) that preceeds it. A noun phrase can be a single noun...or not. A noun and all of it's modifiers make up a noun phrase. Therefore if we have something like:

" market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that "

"for bygone styles" is a PP (prepositional phrase) the modifies market and "of furniture and fixtures" is another PP that modifiers styles.

market
----------for bygone styles
---------------------------------of furniture and fixtures

Now can you see how those embedded modifiers end up forming part of one long noun phrase? You will see phrases much longer than this.

Also note the market is the subject of the sentence, something that is good for clear reference.

Finally, I don't think there is much difference between "things antique" and "antique things." Such a thing will never be the defining difference in a question. There will always be other errors that will make or break an answer choice. The original "all things antique" is a little more poetic here and it does fit the sentence well even though N-Adj inversion is not common in English. Another example would be "joy divine," which sounds cooler the "divine joy."
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by GMATGuruNY » Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:40 pm
Sprite_TM wrote:ok i know this question has been asked a few times and the replies aren't that clear. (to me)

i thought "that" has to modify a noun right before it, but in this sentence, market is soooo far away from "that"

soo...i am a bit confused

i initially picked c because i thought it was "antiques....that bring back" but after looking at it again, i think it is market that brings or "bringing"

anyways, i hope someone can clear the 'that" in the sentence for me. thanks


Out of America's fascination with all things antique have grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that are bringing back the chaise lounge, the overstuffed sofa, and the claw-footed bathtub.

(A) things antique have grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that are bringing
(B) things antique has grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that is bringing
(C) things that are antiques has grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that bring
(D) antique things have grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that are bringing
(E) antique things has grown a market for bygone styles of furniture and fixtures that bring
OAB
Whenever you see a pronoun, always ask yourself what noun is being replaced by the pronoun. In answer choice B, the phrase that is bringing employs a singular verb, so the pronoun that must be replacing a singular noun. The only logical candidate is the the singular noun market. Hence, that is bringing = the market is bringing.

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by paes » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:28 am
Guru,

'that' can refer to 'styles of furniture and fixtures'
or
that can refer to 'furniture and fixtures'

In both the cases,

E will be a better choice.

Also
antique things looks better than things antique.

[ saying 'beautiful woman' is better than saying 'woman beautiful' ]
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by nibake » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:46 am
Where is your sense of rhetoric and poetic, friend? Haven't you ever heard of the famous hymn: "All Things Bright and Beautiful"? It would sound very lame if we said: "All Bright and Beautiful Things"
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by GMATGuruNY » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:26 am
nibake wrote:Where is your sense of rhetoric and poetic, friend? Haven't you ever heard of the famous hymn: "All Things Bright and Beautiful"? It would sound very lame if we said: "All Bright and Beautiful Things"
Nibake is correct. The noun things is considered unappealing. So sometimes an adjective is placed after the noun things in order to create a more appealing and poetic effect. Instead of saying I love all beautiful things -- which places the emphasis on the last word, things -- we might say:

I love all things beautiful.

Now the emphasis is on the word beautiful, a much nicer word to emphasize.

Please don't apply this convention to other nouns. I love all people happy is wrong; you'd have to say I love all happy people.

Two problems in E:

E changes the meaning, because the market -- not the styles, the fixtures, or the furniture -- is bringing back the the chaise lounge, etc.

The verb bring needs to be continuous because the action is ongoing, as in B: the market is bringing back the chaise lounge, etc.

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by paes » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:23 am
Thnaks to Guru and Nibake.
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