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AS IS WRONG

by tanviet » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:18 am
Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize, the Italians’ disregard for Verdi persisted for a decade after his critical acclaim in France and Austria.

(A) Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(B) Like Edvard Grieg, who the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(C) Just as Edvard Grieg was long refused recognition by the Scandinavians,
(D) Just as the Scandinavians long refused to recognize Edvard Grieg, so
(E) Like the Scandinavians’ long refusal to recognize Edvard Grieg,


HELP,PLS

why c and d are wrong

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by vivek.kapoor83 » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:26 am
i think it shld be E

C- wrong idiom
D - Idiom is correct Just as X, So Y
but X & Y are not parallel

E- correct. Like comparing 2 parllel nouns ...scs' and italians'

OA is E ??????????

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Re: AS IS WRONG

by El Cucu » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:07 am
duongthang wrote:Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize, the Italians’ disregard for Verdi persisted for a decade after his critical acclaim in France and Austria.

(A) Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(B) Like Edvard Grieg, who the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(C) Just as Edvard Grieg was long refused recognition by the Scandinavians,
(D) Just as the Scandinavians long refused to recognize Edvard Grieg, so
(E) Like the Scandinavians’ long refusal to recognize Edvard Grieg,


HELP,PLS

why c and d are wrong
Because C and D are comparing a person (Grieg) to a disregard. First, we must check what is being compared with what (nouns, verbs?) If we compare nouns, both nouns should be comparable (person with person, apples with apples).
Also, the idiom is just as x so y.
Correct answer is E because is the only logical comparison between refusal and disregard.

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by tanviet » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:53 pm
No,

in C and D, idiom is correct

and C,D are comparing action with action, not comparing noun

why C and D are wrong

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by El Cucu » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:51 am
duongthang wrote:No,

in C and D, idiom is correct

and C,D are comparing action with action, not comparing noun

why C and D are wrong
Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize, the Italians’ disregard for Verdi persisted for a decade after his critical acclaim in France and Austria.

(A) Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(B) Like Edvard Grieg, who the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(C) Just as Edvard Grieg was long refused recognition by the Scandinavians,
(D) Just as the Scandinavians long refused to recognize Edvard Grieg, so
(E) Like the Scandinavians’ long refusal to recognize Edvard Grieg,

Remeber that sometimes you must choose the BEST option. D if you want is not wrong but is not the best logical parellelism as the first sentence is noun + verb and the second is noun prhase + verb. Is more logical to say just as the scandinavians... so (too) the italians rather than so (too) the italian's disregard.
You would never find a good article with such a comparison! Suggest you to read Economist or NYTimes.

C is more or less the same and besides lacks the second part of the idiom (just as x so (too) y).

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Re: AS IS WRONG

by mkpankaj » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:19 am
duongthang wrote:Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize, the Italians’ disregard for Verdi persisted for a decade after his critical acclaim in France and Austria.

(A) Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(B) Like Edvard Grieg, who the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(C) Just as Edvard Grieg was long refused recognition by the Scandinavians,
(D) Just as the Scandinavians long refused to recognize Edvard Grieg, so
(E) Like the Scandinavians’ long refusal to recognize Edvard Grieg,


HELP,PLS

why c and d are wrong

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Re: AS IS WRONG

by nervesofsteel » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:28 am
duongthang wrote:Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize, the Italians’ disregard for Verdi persisted for a decade after his critical acclaim in France and Austria.

(A) Like Edvard Grieg, whom the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(B) Like Edvard Grieg, who the Scandinavians long refused to recognize,
(C) Just as Edvard Grieg was long refused recognition by the Scandinavians,
(D) Just as the Scandinavians long refused to recognize Edvard Grieg, so
(E) Like the Scandinavians’ long refusal to recognize Edvard Grieg,


HELP,PLS

why c and d are wrong
C) is not using the correct idiom of Just as, so or Just as, so too
along with that C is passive
D) is wrong because there is no parallelism after Just as ... and so ....

E sounds good...

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by Bidisha800 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:18 pm
Clear case of (E)
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by logitech » Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:30 pm
Bidisha800 wrote:Clear case of (E)
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by mals24 » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:05 pm
Bidisha800 wrote:Clear case of (E)
Alright Bidisha I think duongthang knows the answer is E, surprise!!!

What he wants to know is why C and D are incorrect. So it would be better if you would just answer his doubt and keep your opinions to yourself because unfortunately a) no ones interested and b) they are not really going to help him (or anyone else) get a high GMAT score.

Therefore, either post an explanation of your solution or don't post at all. We are here to share some knowledge and learn. Not interested in sharing??? Kindly refrain from posting.

@ doungthang I second viveks logic
C distorts the idiom Just as X so Y
D isnt parallel. Plus comparison is messed up. Your comparing Scandinavians with Italian's disregard.

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by logitech » Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:58 pm
mals24 wrote:
Bidisha800 wrote:Clear case of (E)
Alright Bidisha I think duongthang knows the answer is E, surprise!!!

What he wants to know is why C and D are incorrect. So it would be better if you would just answer his doubt and keep your opinions to yourself because unfortunately a) no ones interested and b) they are not really going to help him (or anyone else) get a high GMAT score.

Therefore, either post an explanation of your solution or don't post at all. We are here to share some knowledge and learn. Not interested in sharing??? Kindly refrain from posting.

@ doungthang I second viveks logic
C distorts the idiom Just as X so Y
D isnt parallel. Plus comparison is messed up. Your comparing Scandinavians with Italian's disregard.

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by welcome » Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:43 pm
IMO
C is wrong because.. 1) incorrect idiom. 2) Action noun (recognition) was compared wrongly with disregard.

D is wrong because 1) not parallal. see this "Italians’ disregard ", measn X's y. so X's Y should be parallal to K's F. This is what is hapenning in E. In fact this is the only difference in E WRT others.
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by Rashmi1804 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:54 am
Guys, I dont understand why X and Y in Option D have to be parallel.

Two actions are compared here. If Nouns, then yes!! it should be "apples to apples"

jus as how S long refused , I's disregard persisted...

If i am not wrong, the sentence means to compare the INTENSITY of both actions.

Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee HELP!!

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by El Cucu » Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:38 am
Rashmi1804 wrote:Guys, I dont understand why X and Y in Option D have to be parallel.

Two actions are compared here. If Nouns, then yes!! it should be "apples to apples"

jus as how S long refused , I's disregard persisted...

If i am not wrong, the sentence means to compare the INTENSITY of both actions.

Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee HELP!!
The idiom is just as x (so too) y. This means that x and y must be parallel no matter whether you are comparing verbs. A comparison must always be parallel.

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by gmat740 » Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:17 pm
(E) Like the Scandinavians’ long refusal to recognize Edvard Grieg,


The Bold part is Parallel to Italian's (both possessive pronouns)
(D) Just as the Scandinavians long refused to recognize Edvard Grieg, so
Although Idiomatic, but the Bold part has to be possessive pronoun just like in E

C is clearly unidiomatic

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