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by [email protected] » Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:39 pm
Hi saidov.mikhail,

In this question, we need to know something about both "n" and "s"; to figure out the remainder, we need to know what we're dividing by. Since we're never told anything about "s", there's no way to answer this question.

Fact 1 tells us "n" is odd. Nothing about "s" though.
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT.

Fact 2 tells us "n" is greater than 20. Nothing about "s" though.
Fact 2 is INSUFFICIENT.

Combined, we know that "n" is odd AND greater than 20. Still nothing about "s" though.

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by vinay1983 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:21 am
saidov.mikhail wrote:If n is a positive integer and r is the remainder when 4+7n is divided by s. What is the value of r?

1) n+1 is divisible by 2
2) n > 20
We need to know values of n, r and s to arrive at any concrete idea. Let us examine the statements

Statement 1

n+1 is divisible by 2. So n can be 1,3,5,7,9 etc. Plug in values of n in the main equation 4+7n divided by s

so 4+7*1=11 or 4+7*3=25 we need to find "r", but for that we need to know "s", which is not available
Hence Insufficient

Statement 2

n > 20, so "n" can be 21,22,23,24 etc. Plug in the values of "n" in the main equation 4+7n divided by s

so 4+7*21=4+141=145, again to find "r", we need "s", but no mention about it. So insufficient

Combining, still no information about "s".

Hence E for me.
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by saidov.mikhail » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:03 am
Guys,
I'm very sorry, I made a mistake in original wording (corrected already)

1) n+1 is divisible by 3

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by vinay1983 » Tue Oct 01, 2013 1:07 am
saidov.mikhail wrote:Guys,
I'm very sorry, I made a mistake in original wording (corrected already)

1) n+1 is divisible by 3
I still don't think this will change the outcome of the question.
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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:30 am
saidov.mikhail wrote:If n is a positive integer and r is the remainder when 4+7n is divided by s. What is the value of r?

1) n+1 is divisible by 3
2) n > 20
You might want to go back and edit your original post again. The question should read:

If n is a positive integer and r is the remainder when 4+7n is divided by 3. What is the value of r?

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:49 am
saidov.mikhail wrote:If n is a positive integer and r is the remainder when 4+7n is divided by 3. What is the value of r?

1) n+1 is divisible by 3
2) n > 20
NOTE: I've edited the question so that it matches the original question.

This question could be worded in a nicer way: If n is a positive integer, what is the remainder when 7n+4 is divided by 3?

Target question: What is the remainder when 7n+4 is divided by 3?

Statement 1: n+1 is divisible by 3
Let's take our target expression (7n+4) and rewrite it as 3(2n+1) + (n+1)
This is useful, because we know that 3(2n+1) is divisible by 3.
Now statement 1 tells us that (n+1) is divisible by 3.
There's a nice rule that says, "If A is divisible by k, and B is divisible by k, then (A+B) is divisible by k."
So, we can conclude that 3(2n+1) + (n+1) is divisible by 3
This means that 7n+4 is divisible by 3
In other words, the remainder is zero when 7n+4 is divided by 3
Since we can answer the target question with certainty, statement 1 is SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: n > 20
There are several values of n that satisfy this condition. Here are two:
Case a: n = 21, in which case, the remainder is one when 7n+4 is divided by 3
Case b: n = 22, in which case, the remainder is two when 7n+4 is divided by 3
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 2 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Answer = A

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by theCodeToGMAT » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:52 am
saidov.mikhail wrote:If n is a positive integer and r is the remainder when 4+7n is divided by s. What is the value of r?

1) n+1 is divisible by 3
2) n > 20
Dear saidov.mikhail,
I think you have made typo error while typing the question.. I have solved a similar question wherein "r when 4+7n is divided by s" was instead "r when 4+7n is divided by 3"
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by theCodeToGMAT » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:02 am
(4 + 7n)/3 => (3 + 6n)/3 + (1+n)3
Part (3 + 6n)/3 is divisible by 3

Statement 1:
(n+1)/3 is divisible.
SUFFICIENT

Statement 2:
n = 20; YES
n = 21; NO
INSUFFICIENT

Answer [spoiler]{A}[/spoiler]
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