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by netigen » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:03 am
A scrub jay can remember when it cached a particular piece of food in a particular place, researchers have discovered, and tend not to bother to recover a perishable treat if stored long enough to have rotted.

A. tend not to bother to recover a perishable treat if
B. they tend not to bother recovering a perishable treat
C. tending not to bother to recover a perishable treat it
D. tends not to bother recovering a perishable treat
E. tends not bothering to recover a perishable treat it
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by s_raizada » Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:44 am
D

A - subject + verb error
B - pronoun
C - parallelism error
E - run on sentence
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by netigen » Sat Jun 07, 2008 2:09 am
How is E run on? Run on sentence is when two independent sentences are joined by a comma, this is not the case in E.
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by s_raizada » Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:50 am
A scrub can remember ...... and tends ..... it stored .....

Where is the conjunctor between the 'it stroed ...' clause and the preceeding clause

Run on sentence happens in the following cases
- no comma between two independent clauses
- comma is there but no conjunctor between two independent clauses
- no comma and no conjunctor between two independent clauses

In short, there must be a conjunctor between any two clauses but if the two clauses are independent clauses then a comma is also required
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by chidcguy » Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:21 pm
Is the it at the end of answer choice E a type?

Also recovering is the action SJ has to perform and not bothering
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by netigen » Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:28 pm
Thanks, I get it now. The "it" at the end makes it a run on sentence.
s_raizada wrote:A scrub can remember ...... and tends ..... it stored .....

Where is the conjunctor between the 'it stroed ...' clause and the preceeding clause

Run on sentence happens in the following cases
- no comma between two independent clauses
- comma is there but no conjunctor between two independent clauses
- no comma and no conjunctor between two independent clauses

In short, there must be a conjunctor between any two clauses but if the two clauses are independent clauses then a comma is also required
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by goelmohit2002 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:47 am
s_raizada wrote:A scrub can remember ...... and tends ..... it stored .....

Where is the conjunctor between the 'it stroed ...' clause and the preceeding clause

Run on sentence happens in the following cases
- no comma between two independent clauses
- comma is there but no conjunctor between two independent clauses
- no comma and no conjunctor between two independent clauses

In short, there must be a conjunctor between any two clauses but if the two clauses are independent clauses then a comma is also required
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Thanks s_raizada.

Can C also be kicked out on the basis of Run-on sentence.

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Also can someone please tell...is the following too a run on sentence:

X happened because Y happened.

Do we need to have comma before because like:

X happened, because Y happened.
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by gmat740 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:25 am
Also can someone please tell...is the following too a run on sentence:

X happened because Y happened.

Do we need to have comma before because like:

X happened, because Y happened.
I think "because" makes the X and Y dependable clause, so a comma is not required.
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by goelmohit2002 » Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:30 am
gmat740 wrote:
Also can someone please tell...is the following too a run on sentence:

X happened because Y happened.

Do we need to have comma before because like:

X happened, because Y happened.
I think "because" makes the X and Y dependable clause, so a comma is not required.
Thanks. But it seems as per the above discussion that we need to have comma....when connecting independent clauses...

Can some one please tell in what all cases comma is required when joining two independent clauses and when all it is not required.
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Re: a perishable treat

by real2008 » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:53 am
netigen wrote:A scrub jay can remember when it cached a particular piece of food in a particular place, researchers have discovered, and tend not to bother to recover a perishable treat if stored long enough to have rotted.

A. tend not to bother to recover a perishable treat if
B. they tend not to bother recovering a perishable treat
C. tending not to bother to recover a perishable treat it
D. tends not to bother recovering a perishable treat ( a comma is missing)
E. tends not bothering to recover a perishable treat it
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by gmat_dest » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:55 am
I am not sure the reason for eliminating E is correct.

The main reason should be that 'it' is redundant here.
Scrub Jay is the subject of the sentence and "tends to...." .

It is not required to refer back to the Scrub Jay again.

My answer is D.

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by goelmohit2002 » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:06 am
gmat_dest wrote:I am not sure the reason for eliminating E is correct.

The main reason should be that 'it' is redundant here.
Scrub Jay is the subject of the sentence and "tends to...." .

It is not required to refer back to the Scrub Jay again.

My answer is D.

What is the OA?
Hi gmat_dest

IMO the reasoning to kick out E(i.e. Run-on sentence) looks OK atleast to me....

Can you please tell why do u think that "it" is redundant...rather than creating the run-on sentence.
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by dumb.doofus » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:41 am
goelmohit2002 wrote:
gmat740 wrote:
Also can someone please tell...is the following too a run on sentence:

X happened because Y happened.

Do we need to have comma before because like:

X happened, because Y happened.
I think "because" makes the X and Y dependable clause, so a comma is not required.
Thanks. But it seems as per the above discussion that we need to have comma....when connecting independent clauses...

Can some one please tell in what all cases comma is required when joining two independent clauses and when all it is not required.
There's no hard and fast rule like that.. also sometimes putting a comma also leads in making the error of a comma splice. Essentially, two independent clauses can't be put together.. they need to be joined using a punctuation or a conjunction. The example you have given above doesn't need comma as you have used a conjunction to join two independent clauses.

Also, I really don't think that option E is run on sentence.. it is just awkward. Use of it is redundant and also doesn't seem to have any referrent. hence, I am not sure why the discussion regarding run on sentence.
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by goelmohit2002 » Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:14 am
s_raizada wrote:A scrub can remember ...... and tends ..... it stored .....

Where is the conjunctor between the 'it stroed ...' clause and the preceeding clause
Hi DD,

What is the problem in the above reasoning...

Moreover why it cannot refer to scrub jay ?

Thanks
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by dumb.doofus » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:42 am
goelmohit2002 wrote:
s_raizada wrote:A scrub can remember ...... and tends ..... it stored .....

Where is the conjunctor between the 'it stroed ...' clause and the preceeding clause
Hi DD,

What is the problem in the above reasoning...

Moreover why it cannot refer to scrub jay ?

Thanks
Mohit
Buddy.. that "it" is just unnecessary.. I am not sure why are we even considering it and then calling this sentence a run on sentence..
run on sentences make sense.. its just that they are grammatically incorrect.. here this sentence is totally out of order in using "it".. its not making any sense at all..
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