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by Param800 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:10 am
Hello Guys,

Can someone please explain me where I am going wrong ?

Q. By offering lower prices and a menu of personal communications options, such as caller identification and voice mail, the new telecommunications company has not only captured customers from other phone companies but also forced them to offer competitive prices.

(A) has not only captured customers from other phone companies but also forced them
(B) has not only captured customers from other phone companies, but it also forced them
(C) has not only captured customers from other phone companies but also forced these companies
(D) not only has captured customers from other phone companies but also these companies have been forced
(E) not only captured customers from other phone companies, but it also has forced them

OA C

So, here's how I approached this question :-

Firstly the common idiom used is not only x but also y... so this leaves me with options A, C or D

Next, the parallelism concept, something is captured...so something should be forced... so this leaves with option A or C.

Now, here's my main question:- the pronoun " them " in the main sentence can't be for the customers because the meaning of sentence will be lost... let's say " forced customers to offer competitive prices " How can customers offer a price ? So, by logic meaning " them " can only refer to companies. So, why are we explicitly mentioning the antecedent of " them " ie these companies?

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by gander123 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:55 am
Good point... would have opted for for C though because its brings across the message more clearly... But I see what you mean...

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by The Iceman » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:47 pm
Guys, there are two things to remember regarding pronoun ambiguity.

1. Avoid it. There are plethora of official problems with correct answers containg ambiguous pronouns. You only need to take care of the fact that some noun exists to which the pronoun refers and that they agree in number. Other than that, just do not pay heed to pronoun ambiguity. Look for other errors in the sentence.

2. The only exception is when you look at the other answer options and you find the ambiguous pronoun itself replaced with the noun. In this case you should switch to the construction where the noun is introduced and discard the options with ambiguous pronoun.

The question at hand is a classic example of point 2 mentioned above. Hence C wins over A.

If option C were not there, you should have chosen A despite the ambiguous "them".

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by GMATGuruNY » Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:23 pm
Param800 wrote:Hello Guys,

Can someone please explain me where I am going wrong ?

Q. By offering lower prices and a menu of personal communications options, such as caller identification and voice mail, the new telecommunications company has not only captured customers from other phone companies but also forced them to offer competitive prices.

(A) has not only captured customers from other phone companies but also forced them
(B) has not only captured customers from other phone companies, but it also forced them
(C) has not only captured customers from other phone companies but also forced these companies
(D) not only has captured customers from other phone companies but also these companies have been forced
(E) not only captured customers from other phone companies, but it also has forced them

OA C

So, here's how I approached this question :-

Firstly the common idiom used is not only x but also y... so this leaves me with options A, C or D

Next, the parallelism concept, something is captured...so something should be forced... so this leaves with option A or C.

Now, here's my main question:- the pronoun " them " in the main sentence can't be for the customers because the meaning of sentence will be lost... let's say " forced customers to offer competitive prices " How can customers offer a price ? So, by logic meaning " them " can only refer to companies. So, why are we explicitly mentioning the antecedent of " them " ie these companies?

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Answer choice A:
The new telecommunications company has
not only captured CUSTOMERS...
but also forced THEM
...

Here, GRAMMAR is at odds with MEANING:
The parallel structures imply that them refers to customers.
To convey the intended meaning, them must refer to other phone companies.

Since C bypasses this issue and is error-free, we should eliminate A and choose C.
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by EducationAisle » Sun Jan 06, 2013 9:27 am
Also you might refer to Q#6 in OG12 (In late 1997, the chambers inside the pyramid of the
Pharaoh Menkaure..
).

The OE for options C and D says:

The pronoun them seems to refer to tourists, which is nonsensical;
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by David@VeritasPrep » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:45 am
I just want to echo a bit of what the Iceman says above. People tend to take errors in Sentence Correction all at the same level. So they will eliminate a potentially ambiguous verb at the same priority as a clear singular-plural error.

But things are not all at the same level. The two most important categories to start with are "logic" and "grammar." By "Logic" I mean common things like "misplaced modifiers" and "verb tense/timeline." These are primarily errors in logic. It is not primarily a grammar problem if I say "the rug covered the floor, which will soon be back from the cleaners." It is a problem with logical. Likewise it is not grammar but logic that makes it incorrect to imply through verb tense that I was born before my father.

By "grammar" I primarily mean things like "subject verb" and "pronoun-antecedent" agreement as well as "parallelism" and anything in the nature of a run-on sentence or a fragment, those sorts of things.

Now AFTER this level of scrutiny we next come to Clarity and Specificity. If two answers both pass the test of logic and grammar, now we can look to see which is clearer and which is more specific. This is what the ICEMAN is talking about when he says that we choose C because it fixes the ambiguity of the pronoun in choice A with a clearer option. This is exactly right. A and C avoid the other errors and C is superior in both clarity and specificity - it is quite clear that it is the "companies" that are forced "to offer competitive prices."

I have written a post on the Veritas Prep Blog about the 5 criteria for Sentence Correction. The link is here: https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2013/01 ... orrection/

And this article that I wrote that illustrates this point of clarity and specificity. It is called "Split the Pair" https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2011/04/ ... correction
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