HAVING + PAST PARTICIPLE

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agganitk: Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts; Posts: 52; Joined: Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:33 am; Thanked: 1 times

by agganitk » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:13 am

I have seen the usage of a HAVING + participle, such as HAVING HAD or HAVING BEEN, many times.
I know that ING form can act as noun, adverb, or adjective, but the HAVING + particple usage is not clear to me.

Can someone explain ?

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Source: Beat The GMAT — Sentence Correction | Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:13 am

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by uwhusky » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:18 am

I am glad you brought this up.

I googled some and found these:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/learn ... v305.shtml
https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/ask-t ... -said.html

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by agganitk » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:47 am

Thank for the link.

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by pinchharmonic » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:39 pm

in the mgmat guide it uses "having + past participle" in two ways

(1) "having broken the lamp, she has been worrying all night"
(2) "having been shown into the office, julia waited for the dentist to arrive"

for #2 mgmat claims that "having been shown" is acting as a past perfect action, happening before "waited". I always thought past perfect was Had+ participle, but I know there is no "hadding", so i accept it.

then i see #1, so now "having broken" is a past perfect, whereas "has been" is in present perfect?

appears that "having + participle" somehow just assumes to occur prior to the tense of the subsequent clause. because in the link provided in the previous post, they use

"having + participle, then present tense in next clause"

any ideas?

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by sana.noor » Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:47 pm

having-past participle, here in example "Having broken the lamp, she has been worrying all the night"......having broken perform two actions, first! it tells that why she was worried whole night? because she broke the lamp. it modifies the whole clause second! she was worried after breaking the lamp, so to express an action that took place first and is completed we use Having-broken!! am i right?? i want an expert to comment here

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by Kasia@EconomistGMAT » Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:09 am

If we want to emphasize that the action happens before the other one and both actions took place in the past, we can use having + V3 instead of a clause:

Having been beaten by Tyson, Geoffrey decided to give up boxing. (= After/As he had been beaten by Tyson, Geoffrey decided to give up boxing.)
Having written my letters, I did some gardening. (= When I had written my letters, I did some gardening.)

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by hey_thr67 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:21 pm

I have still not understood the difference here.

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by sana.noor » Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:32 pm

@ kasia!! it means i am clear in my concepts..

thanks for ur reply

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by Kasia@EconomistGMAT » Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:35 am

Glad to hear that!

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