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Judge Bonham question

by logitech » Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:59 pm
Okay this is a OG problem and we all know the answer is E! :)

But I have a question:

Judge Bonham denied a motion to allow members of the jury to go home at the end of each day instead of to confine them to a hotel.
(A) to allow members of the jury to go home at the end of each day instead of to confine them to
(B) that would have allowed members of the jury to go home at the end of each day instead of confined to
(C) under which members of the jury are allowed to go home at the end of each day instead of confining them in
(D) that would allow members of the jury to go home at the end of each day rather than confinement in
(E) to allow members of the jury to go home at the end of each day rather than be confined to

Judge Bonham denied a motion to allow members of the jury to go home

does to allow modify 'motion" or "denied"

I was reading the use of INFINITIVES in the new MGMAT SC guide and it is stated that the subject needs to be doing what INFINITIVE does...

Is is Judge himself allowing or the motion ?

If it is the motion, dont you guys think it shoud be a motion that would allow ?
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by raunekk » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:25 am
the infinitive is a verb-noun.
(i.e it is a kind of noun with certain features of the verb)


Here,
Judge Bonham denied a motion to allow members of the jury...

infinitive "to allow" which acts like a noun,is the object of the verb "denied", but like a verb it also takes an object i.e "members".

Infinitives are also used to qualify a verb,noun,adjective or a sentence.

(source:analogous to an example from WREN&MARIN)

thanks.

i hope this helps.!!!
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by logitech » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:33 am
Judge Bonham denied a motion to allow members of the jury to go home

So who allows members go home ?

Judge or motion ?
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by raunekk » Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:21 am
Judge Bonham denied a motion to allow members of the jury to go home

So who allows members go home ?

Judge or motion ?

the judge denied the motion...

Here the infinitive does the work of qualifying a noun "motion", i.e it does the work of an adjective.(it says something more about the motion")


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by logitech » Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:36 am
Thank you!
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by fighting_cax » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:38 am
Hi Guys,

I'm still confused with this question even after you've provided some explanations. Could you elaborate further, using simpler terms this time?

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by vpr » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:50 am
Infinitives are used to show purpose. Here Judge Bonham denied the motion and the purpose is to allow .....

Compare this with ' I visited NY to see ..'

To add to this thread, participles (verb + ing working as adjective) are used to show result.
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by welcome » Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:21 am
To understand this, let us make a small change in the sentense.

1. Judge Bonham denied a motion to allow members of the jury to go home

make it as..

2. Judge Bonham denied a motion allowing members of the jury to go home

Now here is the difference between infinitive (to allow) and participle (allowing) will come as INTENSION of work or RESULT of work.


So from original statement we can deduce that intension of the judge was achived by denying the motion and it is very clear that judge is denying the motion, and this act of deny is fulfilling the intendet purpose.
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by mmslf75 » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:30 am
guys,

is it SUBJUNCTIVE at play here .

I guess no ! what;s ur take ?
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by Stacey Koprince » Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:39 pm
Received a PM asking me to reply. I can't reply thoroughly because this is an OG question and we're not supposed to be posting and discussing these online.

Subjunctive is not at issue here. I'm guessing you're asking about that because of the word "be" but that's not actually in subjunctive form.

I allow my students to go home after class rather than be confined to the classroom all night.
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"rather than" is a comparison marker and requires parallelism: X rather than Y
stem = I allow my students to
X = go home after class
Y = be confined to the classroom at night

I allow my students to X rather than (to) Y. The "to" applies to both X and Y, so I actually have "to go" and "to be" = both infinitives.
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by Testluv » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:56 pm
Received a PM asking me to reply. I can't reply thoroughly because this is an OG question and we're not supposed to be posting and discussing these online.
I'm pretty sure we can discuss OG and GMATprep questions thoroughly so long as they have been properly cited--I suppose the forum moderators can correct me if I am wrong.

As far as I know, the only kind of questions that we are not supposed to be posting and discussing online are actual live GMAT questions (and that indeed is a definite no-no!). Because OG questions are retired, if they have been properly cited, then it should be okay to discuss them.

After all, a LOT of OG questions get discussed on these boards, and if it were problematic, surely Eric would have stepped in at some time. :)
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by beatthegmat » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:51 pm
Last I heard from the GMAC, the only types of questions that we're not allowed to discuss are live GMAT questions. Testluv is correct. :)
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by Stacey Koprince » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:52 am
In October of 2007, GMAC told us (at their biannual test-prep summit) that we are not supposed to post the text of official questions from purchased / paid for official sources. Both OG and GMAT Focus are paid products. GMAC reiterated this position at the Oct 2009 summit. They did say we could discuss them, as long as we don't post the actual text (which, of course, makes discussion a bit problematic at best.)

Eric, if you have received communication from them that changes this directive, please let me know - I would love it if this restriction were lifted!
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by sachindia » Mon Jan 07, 2013 2:49 am
I don't understand why A is wrong. Please help..
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by The Iceman » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:11 am
sachindia wrote:I don't understand why A is wrong. Please help..
"instead of" works as a preposition and hence requires a "noun" to follow it. In addition to this issue A also has wrong meaning because of non parallel construction.

E expresses the meaning right by getting the parallelism right.

to allow members of the jury to [go home] ... rather than [be confined]
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