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by aj5105 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:52 am
Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied. Congress has been required to call a convention
for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures
of two-thirds of the states.
(A) was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do it
(B) was never applied, there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of
possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(C) was never applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(D) has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do so
(E) has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to
the document when formally asked to do so
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by Mani_mba » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:39 am
aj5105 wrote:
Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied. Congress has been required to call a convention
for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures
of two-thirds of the states.
(A) was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do it
(B) was never applied, there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of
possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(C) was never applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(D) has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do so
(E) has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to
the document when formally asked to do so
Inserting "Whereby" before "Congress" makes the sentence incomplete. i.e. it becomes a fragment.

Do you observe that ?
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by stop@800 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:41 am
IMO E

because
"under a provision" conveys what is to be said by using whereby.
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by ur_panacea » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:41 am
aj5105 wrote:Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied. Congress has been required to call a convention
for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures
of two-thirds of the states.
(A) was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do it
(B) was never applied, there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of
possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(C) was never applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(D) has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do so
(E) has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to
the document when formally asked to do so

IMO E

whereby and under the provision are redundant.

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by dumb.doofus » Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:41 pm
I think this question is from OG..
clear and concise. E
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by piyush_nitt » Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:33 pm
Can anyone plz explain that why option E is correct?

I believe sentence "Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied". is a fragment. "Under a provision" is prepositional phrase and that introduces the dependent adjective clause.
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Re: why whereby is wrong?

by logitech » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:28 pm
Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied. Congress has been required to call a convention
for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures
of two-thirds of the states.

WAS vs HAS BEEN ( 3/2 split)
TO DO IT vs TO DO SO (3/2 split )

TO DO SO > TO DO IT

WAS is wrong we need present perfect tense - A, B and C are gone.


(D) has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

(E) has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so[/quote]

Under a provision of the Constitution that has never been applied is an opening modifier which requires the subject at the end in an independent clause.

Whereby distorts this rule and also makes D a dependent clause ( ? )

and I also believe that there needs to be a COMMA before CONGRESS in option E.
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by piyush_nitt » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:53 pm
Why not A?

why do we need present perfect in the main clause?

Cannot we use 'was' and 'has been' combination as used in sentence A?
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by logitech » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:06 pm
piyush_nitt wrote:Why not A?

why do we need present perfect in the main clause?

Cannot we use 'was' and 'has been' combination as used in sentence A?
to do it !!! in option A is one of the big NO's in GMAT!
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by tanviet » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:33 pm
I agree that "whereby" is redundant if it is advert and that it make a fragment not a sentence if it is a conjuction

But, pls, explain the use of whereby? it is subordinate or coordinate conjuction?
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by logitech » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:53 pm
duongthang wrote:I agree that "whereby" is redundant if it is advert and that it make a fragment not a sentence if it is a conjuction

But, pls, explain the use of whereby? it is subordinate or coordinate conjuction?
Whereby can be used instead of by means of or through which.

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by vscid » Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:39 pm
aj5105 wrote:Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied. Congress has been required to call a convention
for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures
of two-thirds of the states.
(A) was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do it
(B) was never applied, there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of
possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(C) was never applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(D) has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do so
(E) has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to
the document when formally asked to do so
What question number is this one (from OG)
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by vscid » Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:47 pm
logitech wrote:Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied. Congress has been required to call a convention
for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures
of two-thirds of the states.

WAS vs HAS BEEN ( 3/2 split)
TO DO IT vs TO DO SO (3/2 split )

TO DO SO > TO DO IT

WAS is wrong we need present perfect tense - A, B and C are gone.


(D) has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so

(E) has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do so
Under a provision of the Constitution that has never been applied is an opening modifier which requires the subject at the end in an independent clause.

Whereby distorts this rule and also makes D a dependent clause ( ? )

and I also believe that there needs to be a COMMA before CONGRESS in option E.[/quote]

Logitech, what is this 3/2 split , can you explain?
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by piyush_nitt » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:23 am
vscid wrote:
aj5105 wrote:Under a provision of the Constitution that was never applied. Congress has been required to call a convention
for considering possible amendments to the document when formally asked to do it by the legislatures
of two-thirds of the states.
(A) was never applied, Congress has been required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do it
(B) was never applied, there has been a requirement that Congress call a convention for consideration of
possible amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(C) was never applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention for considering possible
amendments to the document when asked to do it formally
(D) has never been applied, whereby Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible
amendments to the document when formally asked to do so
(E) has never been applied. Congress is required to call a convention to consider possible amendments to
the document when formally asked to do so
What question number is this one (from OG)
OG10 41
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by piyush_nitt » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:25 am
logitech wrote:
piyush_nitt wrote:Why not A?

why do we need present perfect in the main clause?

Cannot we use 'was' and 'has been' combination as used in sentence A?
to do it !!! in option A is one of the big NO's in GMAT!
wondering if option A is correct if we modify the ending to "to do so".

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