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tough gemoetry question

by resilient » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:12 pm
A sphere is inscribed in a cube with an edge of 10. What is the shortest possible distance from one of the vertices of the cube to the surface of the sphere?


10( – 1)


5


10( – 1)


5( – 1)


5( – 1)

answer is fairly straightforward and qa is d..however, I dont see where the -1 comes into play in the answer choices.
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Re: tough gemoetry question

by Stuart@KaplanGMAT » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:40 pm
Enginpasa1 wrote:A sphere is inscribed in a cube with an edge of 10. What is the shortest possible distance from one of the vertices of the cube to the surface of the sphere?


10( – 1)


5


10( – 1)


5( – 1)


5( – 1)

answer is fairly straightforward and qa is d..however, I dont see where the -1 comes into play in the answer choices.
you have two pairs of answers that are identical - must be a typo.
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simple math but very challenging division

by resilient » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:21 am
Which of the following is the second greatest?

.000008
8 × 10^-8
8 ÷ 10^5

.0008/1000
88 ÷ 10^6


there has to be an easier way than my computations.
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by gmatguy16 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:23 pm
i guess answer is 5 ( sqrt(2) -1) ..is that one of the choices?

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by xilef » Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:55 pm
Refer to the image for a view of a cube from the side.

we have:

10^2+10^2=(10+2x)^2
sqrt200=10+2x
5sqrt2-5=x
x=5(sqrt2-1)
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A sphere is inscribed in a cube with an edge of 10. What is the shortest possible distance from one of the vertices of the cube to the surface of the sphere?

The question is correct, and I don't remember what the available answers are because I did this question a while ago, but I will show how to get the solution:

If the Cube has a sphere inscribed in it, and the cube has an edge of 10 units, then the radius of the sphere is 5.

that being said, if we draw an imaginary line from the center of the sphere towards a cube's vertex, doesn't matter which one obviously, then the portion of that line inside the sphere is 5. The total line, as in from the center of the sphere to the vertex, minus 5 is the answer. So how to find the full length of that imaginary line?

Imagine you cut the cube with the sphere inscribed in such a way that we are left with a smaller cube that has an edge of 5 instead of 10. One vertex of this smaller cube will be the center of the sphere inscribed in the larger cube, and opposite that vertex in the smaller cube is the larger cube's vertex that we were drawing an imaginary line to. In other words, the diagonal of this smaller 5 x 5 x 5 cube is the imaginary line discussed in the last paragraph.

Remember, imaginary line - 5, (where 5 is the sphere radius), will be our answer. We know our new smaller cube is 5 x 5 x 5. The diagonal of a surface of this cube, using standard Pythagorean theorem is:

root[5^2 + 5^2] = root[50]

Getting back to the imaginary line from sphere's center to the cube's vertex... draw that line as the hypotenuse of a triangle that uses one of the bottom edges of the small cube (which has a measure of 5 units) and the other is our newly formed small cube surface diagonal line that measures 5 x root[2].

the imaginary line's length is:

= root [(root[50])^2 + 5^2] = root[50 + 25] = root[75] = root [25 x 3]

and finally, = 5 x root[3]

that is the length of the full imaginary line, but if you recall, we need to remove 5 from this, since that is the portion of the line inscribed inside the sphere.

Therefore,

5 x root[3] - 5 = 5(root[3] -1)

is the shortest distance from the cubes' vertex to the outer shell of the sphere.

this was a tough question for me to describe, sorry if it's not entirely comprehensible....

Good luck all!

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by awesomeusername » Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:10 pm
I got 5(root(2) - 1)

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Edthesock wrote:A sphere is inscribed in a cube with an edge of 10. What is the shortest possible distance from one of the vertices of the cube to the surface of the sphere?

The question is correct, and I don't remember what the available answers are because I did this question a while ago, but I will show how to get the solution:

If the Cube has a sphere inscribed in it, and the cube has an edge of 10 units, then the radius of the sphere is 5.

that being said, if we draw an imaginary line from the center of the sphere towards a cube's vertex, doesn't matter which one obviously, then the portion of that line inside the sphere is 5. The total line, as in from the center of the sphere to the vertex, minus 5 is the answer. So how to find the full length of that imaginary line?

Imagine you cut the cube with the sphere inscribed in such a way that we are left with a smaller cube that has an edge of 5 instead of 10. One vertex of this smaller cube will be the center of the sphere inscribed in the larger cube, and opposite that vertex in the smaller cube is the larger cube's vertex that we were drawing an imaginary line to. In other words, the diagonal of this smaller 5 x 5 x 5 cube is the imaginary line discussed in the last paragraph.

Remember, imaginary line - 5, (where 5 is the sphere radius), will be our answer. We know our new smaller cube is 5 x 5 x 5. The diagonal of a surface of this cube, using standard Pythagorean theorem is:

root[5^2 + 5^2] = root[50]

Getting back to the imaginary line from sphere's center to the cube's vertex... draw that line as the hypotenuse of a triangle that uses one of the bottom edges of the small cube (which has a measure of 5 units) and the other is our newly formed small cube surface diagonal line that measures 5 x root[2].

the imaginary line's length is:

= root [(root[50])^2 + 5^2] = root[50 + 25] = root[75] = root [25 x 3]

and finally, = 5 x root[3]

that is the length of the full imaginary line, but if you recall, we need to remove 5 from this, since that is the portion of the line inscribed inside the sphere.

Therefore,

5 x root[3] - 5 = 5(root[3] -1)

is the shortest distance from the cubes' vertex to the outer shell of the sphere.

this was a tough question for me to describe, sorry if it's not entirely comprehensible....

Good luck all!
you are absolutely right Edthesock...
I calculated wrongly in the beginning as 5(sqrt(2)-1)
but that is the distane between center the square (one of the faces of the cube) to the vertex...

To calculate the distance from center of the sphere to the vertex, we can use pythagoras theorem, where
Hypotenuse is the line from center to vertex (say X)
(1/2) times diagonal of the face of the cube (square with side 10, so this is sqrt(50) )
radius of the sphere (5)

we get
X^2 = (sqrt(50))^2 + 5^2
X^2 = 50+25
x = 5 sqrt (3)

now we got the distance from center to vertex.
subtracting 5 (radius) from this distance will give the distance between vertex and surface of the sphere.
ie 5(sqrt (3) - 1)

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by kamu » Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:56 am
Calculate the Diagonal of the cube : https://www.beatthegmat.com/diagonal-of- ... 12160.html

divide this by 2 and then subtract the radius.

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by krisraam » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:20 am
diagonal of the side = 10SQRT(2)
edge = 10
diagonal of the cube = 10SQRT(3)

Shortest distance = half the diagonal - redius of the sphere

5SQRT(3) - 5 = 5(SQRT(3)-1)

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by AIM GMAT » Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:24 am
Superb explanation Edthesock , thanks a ton . I missed the point that diagonal must be of cube and not just of the face of cube .

Diagonal = sqrt [ l^2 + b^2 + h^2 ]
As it is cube of side 10 hence diagonal = sqrt [ 10X10 + 10X10 + 10X10] = 10 sqrt[3]

Mistake made by calculating diagonal as = sqrt [ 10X10 + 10X10 ] {By formula of calculating hypotenuse }
= 10 sqrt [2]



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by Fractal » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:16 am
The shortest distance from a vertex of the cube to the sphere would be ½ the length of the diagonal of the cube minus the radius of the sphere

i don't understand why we have to use the diagnoal of the cube (x*3^0.5) and not the diagonal of the square (x*2^0.5). isn't the shortest distance at the bottom of the cube and hence the diagonal of the square relevant?

could anybody explain?

the rest is clear for me.

thx a lot!

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by sl750 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:23 am
That is because we are not dealing with a 2D figure. In that case you are assuming that a square circumscribes a circle, but here we have a sphere inscribed in a cube. Drawing it out will help make things clearer

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by Fractal » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:52 am
sl750 wrote:That is because we are not dealing with a 2D figure. In that case you are assuming that a square circumscribes a circle, but here we have a sphere inscribed in a cube. Drawing it out will help make things clearer
i draw it :-)

but as far as i understand, the sphere is standing on the bottom of the cube. therefore, i don't understand why we don't use x*2^0.5

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by sl750 » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:06 am
Drop a perpendicular from the center of the sphere to the bottom of one side of the cube. From one of the vertex draw a line connecting the perpendicular line at the base. You'll see that the hypotenuse is 1/2*sqrt(3)*side. Otherwise, you could always google for some similar diagram to help you out