So I took the GMAT yesterday, and scored better than I ever had on any practice tests (44Q and 51V, so a 760). Mostly I'm thrilled, but I'm a little nervous about that Quant score for the programs I'm targeting (top 20, a couple top 10s). I've heard about the apocryphal 80/80 percentile cut-off for top programs, so will a 66th %ile Quant kill me if I'm 99th %ile Verbal?
By way of background, I'm from a Humanities background, elite Liberal Arts undergrad (3.7 gpa 6 years ago), finishing a Masters in Political Economy (3.9 gpa). Classic "poet" profile. I've demonstrated a little bit of Quant chops, I got an A in a graduate-credit level stats class I took via Continuing Education at a very fancy local university last year, and was asked back to serve as a grader the semester after. So I have something to show on the quant front, but it's still pretty thin. Not sure if it can offset that Quant score in the eyes of a top 10 adcom.
The Math 44 frankly wasn't that abnormally low for me. I had a couple practice tests up in the 88th and 77th percentiles, but I also had some where I bombed out and ended up below the 50th. Needless to say, math is not my strength. The verbal, though, has never been a problem. I've consistently been scoring in the 99th percentile on all CATs since the diagnostic, so I have no doubt that I could boost my current overall score by retaking if I were to do more math studying.
I just wonder if I'm crazy to even consider retaking the test, and investing yet more time into the GMAT, rather than spending that time on the rest of my app. Opportunity costs, trade-offs etc etc.
Any advice?
Thx
Scored a 760, but very lopsided. Retake...?
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Congratulations~! 760 is a amazing score and that's the 99 percentile. Remember only 1 out of 100 test takers score more that 750. I really dont think you need to retake the exam anymore. I would focus more on the application if I were you.
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If you are applying to a program that is quant intensive then take the exam again. You have scored a rare 51 in verbal. 51. You have demonstrated mastery in your area of expertise. That's awesome. Congrats.
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Congrats on the awesum V51.
Just wanted to knw as you took the the test yesterday, you must have had the integrated reasoning section too.
how long was it and at the section was at the end right? (just to reconfirm)
Just wanted to knw as you took the the test yesterday, you must have had the integrated reasoning section too.
how long was it and at the section was at the end right? (just to reconfirm)
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I don't think the integrated section is part of the GMAT just yet, it wont be added in until 2012.
Congrats on your score, especially verbal. IMO, its not necessary to retake, because I think your score is high enough to be competitive. I would focus on my essays/resume.
Congrats on your score, especially verbal. IMO, its not necessary to retake, because I think your score is high enough to be competitive. I would focus on my essays/resume.
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hey,mriiidula wrote:I don't think the integrated section is part of the GMAT just yet, it wont be added in until 2012.
Congrats on your score, especially verbal. IMO, its not necessary to retake, because I think your score is high enough to be competitive. I would focus on my essays/resume.
i very well knw abt that. thanks anyways.
but all test takers who take their test between july 5tth and aug 9th are supposed to test out the new section -it wouldnt be scored obviously.
btw nice blog there
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Oh I apologise, I didn't know that actually.rohu27 wrote:hey,mriiidula wrote:I don't think the integrated section is part of the GMAT just yet, it wont be added in until 2012.
Congrats on your score, especially verbal. IMO, its not necessary to retake, because I think your score is high enough to be competitive. I would focus on my essays/resume.
i very well knw abt that. thanks anyways.
but all test takers who take their test between july 5tth and aug 9th are supposed to test out the new section -it wouldnt be scored obviously.
btw nice blog there
But that's interesting, Joel, how was it?
And thank you
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Thanks for the replies everyone.
As for the new integrated section, I did indeed do one of those afterwards. It was very different from the other sections, with two basic question types:
One was a big decision flow chart type of thing, with questions asking you to dig into it and answer some logic questions. ("If A, then B, C or D?")
The second looked a bit like the reading comprehension sections, except that instead of a block of three paragraphs of text, you saw a short text and then a couple of tabs you click on to reveal tables of data. The questions here were asking you to compare the data ("which of the rows has the following ratio between columns A and B?") Interestingly, that one required some calculation, but the software had a calculator for you to use.
As for the new integrated section, I did indeed do one of those afterwards. It was very different from the other sections, with two basic question types:
One was a big decision flow chart type of thing, with questions asking you to dig into it and answer some logic questions. ("If A, then B, C or D?")
The second looked a bit like the reading comprehension sections, except that instead of a block of three paragraphs of text, you saw a short text and then a couple of tabs you click on to reveal tables of data. The questions here were asking you to compare the data ("which of the rows has the following ratio between columns A and B?") Interestingly, that one required some calculation, but the software had a calculator for you to use.
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Hello!
Congrats on the sweet score!
As for your question- maybe you should ask someone in admissions at the schools you're applying to. It's worth a shot. With that said, only take the GMAT if you're going to make a significant increase to you Math score, at least a 47 I would say. While admissions officers often say they only look at the highest score I've known some officers to pay more attention to the "story" that your GMAT exams tell.
Congrats on the sweet score!
As for your question- maybe you should ask someone in admissions at the schools you're applying to. It's worth a shot. With that said, only take the GMAT if you're going to make a significant increase to you Math score, at least a 47 I would say. While admissions officers often say they only look at the highest score I've known some officers to pay more attention to the "story" that your GMAT exams tell.
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Hey Joel,
Congrats on your awesome score. Verbal score is insane Any tips on Verbal section would be appreciated. I would just echo what the above expert has posted. Retake it only if you are sure you can reach at least 47 in Quant.
Good luck!
Congrats on your awesome score. Verbal score is insane Any tips on Verbal section would be appreciated. I would just echo what the above expert has posted. Retake it only if you are sure you can reach at least 47 in Quant.
Good luck!
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Congrats on the great score man....Verbal score is awesome...
It would be helpful if u can write about your preparations (and any tips) w.r.t. to the verbal section for all the preppies out here
Good Luck with the applications man...
It would be helpful if u can write about your preparations (and any tips) w.r.t. to the verbal section for all the preppies out here
Good Luck with the applications man...
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I think you are crazy if you consider a retake.
760 is an awesome score!
760 is an awesome score!
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Don't even think about retaking unless you are applying to a quant-heavy program and you are sure you can improve your score to at least a 47
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Thank you for your post. I am good at math but very weak at verbal. Moreover, I am a non native. I wish to ask you somthing which is important to my preparation.JoelCairo wrote:So I took the GMAT yesterday, and scored better than I ever had on any practice tests (44Q and 51V, so a 760). Mostly I'm thrilled, but I'm a little nervous about that Quant score for the programs I'm targeting (top 20, a couple top 10s). I've heard about the apocryphal 80/80 percentile cut-off for top programs, so will a 66th %ile Quant kill me if I'm 99th %ile Verbal?
By way of background, I'm from a Humanities background, elite Liberal Arts undergrad (3.7 gpa 6 years ago), finishing a Masters in Political Economy (3.9 gpa). Classic "poet" profile. I've demonstrated a little bit of Quant chops, I got an A in a graduate-credit level stats class I took via Continuing Education at a very fancy local university last year, and was asked back to serve as a grader the semester after. So I have something to show on the quant front, but it's still pretty thin. Not sure if it can offset that Quant score in the eyes of a top 10 adcom.
The Math 44 frankly wasn't that abnormally low for me. I had a couple practice tests up in the 88th and 77th percentiles, but I also had some where I bombed out and ended up below the 50th. Needless to say, math is not my strength. The verbal, though, has never been a problem. I've consistently been scoring in the 99th percentile on all CATs since the diagnostic, so I have no doubt that I could boost my current overall score by retaking if I were to do more math studying.
I just wonder if I'm crazy to even consider retaking the test, and investing yet more time into the GMAT, rather than spending that time on the rest of my app. Opportunity costs, trade-offs etc etc.
Any advice?
Thx
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