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by paes » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:55 pm
The Great Depression has been studied in great deal by economists, primarily on account of providing insight into more recent economic conditions.

(A) on account of providing
(B) on account of its providing
(c) because of providing
(D) being it provides
(E) because it provides
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by RyanDark » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:08 pm
IMO A or B.More inclined towards A.
B- I feel 'its' is not required here.
C-Because of -must precede a noun/pronoun.
D-being.
E-I feel this option changes the meaning.

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by niksworth » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:16 pm
I would go with E.

Because and on account of can be used interchangeably to establish a cause and effect relationship. However, if both are there and in absence of other grammatical errors, I would prefer because, as it is much more concise..

Here the fight is between B and E. B is wordy and awkward.
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by niksworth » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:19 pm
paes wrote:The Great Depression has been studied in great deal by economists, primarily on account of providing insight into more recent economic conditions.

(A) on account of providing
(B) on account of its providing
(c) because of providing
(D) being it provides
(E) because it provides
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There is something wrong in the non underlined portion as well (highlighted above). I think, it should be in great detail instead of in great deal.
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by nehaberi86 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:31 pm
My answer would be E - the choice seems to complete the sentence with the right usage and without errors.

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by paes » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:06 pm
OA is E.
Thanks guys.

But here is my confusion with E.

In E : 'it' is referring to The Great Depression so :

The Great Depression has been studied in great deal by economists, primarily
because <The great Depression> provides insight into more recent economic conditions.

Don't you think that the meaning is absurd. It should be :

The study provides insight into more recent economic conditions.

Considering the above explanation, I selected C.

Please share your thoughts. Does the meaning make sense or I am missing something.

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by niksworth » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:18 pm
paes wrote:OA is E.
Thanks guys.

But here is my confusion with E.

In E : 'it' is referring to The Great Depression so :

The Great Depression has been studied in great deal by economists, primarily
because <The great Depression> provides insight into more recent economic conditions.

Don't you think that the meaning is absurd. It should be :

The study provides insight into more recent economic conditions.

Considering the above explanation, I selected C.

Please share your thoughts. Does the meaning make sense or I am missing something.
I don't think that the meaning is absurd. An event in itself can provide an insight into something.
E.g. World War II provided an insight into the brutishness and savagery that humans are capable of when instincts take over completely and reason takes a backseat .
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by mohit11 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:40 pm
paes wrote:OA is E.
Thanks guys.

But here is my confusion with E.

In E : 'it' is referring to The Great Depression so :

The Great Depression has been studied in great deal by economists, primarily
because <The great Depression> provides insight into more recent economic conditions.

Don't you think that the meaning is absurd. It should be :

The study provides insight into more recent economic conditions.

Considering the above explanation, I selected C.

Please share your thoughts. Does the meaning make sense or I am missing something.
Paes pronoun ambiguity is checked using a two step technique.
1. Does the construction of the sentence resolve the ambiguity?

Lee played with the ball and then he kept it in the locker

Subject : Lee Object Ball - In the first part
Subject : He Object - It - In the second part.

Therefore, the above sentence is not ambiguous

2. Does the author's intent resolve the pronoun ambiguity?

Take the ball for this box and lets play with it. - Though you can say that it can refer to both box and ball, but its clear from author's intent that it refers to the ball.

So in the question It clearly refers to the Great Depression
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by paes » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:46 pm
Mohit@

read my post again. I am also saying that 'it' is referring to 'the great depression'
but my point is :

How an event can provide the insight :

<The great Depression> provides insight into more recent economic conditions.

[ It should have been;
the study provides insight into more recent economic conditions.
]

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by mohit11 » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:58 pm
paes wrote:Mohit@

read my post again. I am also saying that 'it' is referring to 'the great depression'
but my point is :

How an event can provide the insight :

<The great Depression> provides insight into more recent economic conditions.

[ It should have been;
the study provides insight into more recent economic conditions.
]
You're right, the event itself cannot provide insights. Studying an event on the other hand can provide insights. Anyway, SC is about elimination, no point wasting time on this query.
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by GMATGuruNY » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:32 am
mohit11 wrote:
paes wrote:Mohit@

read my post again. I am also saying that 'it' is referring to 'the great depression'
but my point is :

How an event can provide the insight :

<The great Depression> provides insight into more recent economic conditions.

[ It should have been;
the study provides insight into more recent economic conditions.
]
You're right, the event itself cannot provide insights. Studying an event on the other hand can provide insights. Anyway, SC is about elimination, no point wasting time on this query.
Sometimes a noun represents not only the thing itself but also various aspects of that thing:

The GMAT taught me a lot about myself.

In the sentence above, the GMAT refers not only to the test itself but also to my preparing for it, my taking it, etc.

Here are several results from a Google search of the phrase provides insight:

Well-preserved tomb provides insight into Mayan Culture.
Facebook provides insight into DC employees' jobs.
North Carolina provides insight into changing Southern politics.


The meaning of the sentences above is that examining the tomb, Facebook, and North Carolina will help us to gain insight.

Hope this helps!
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by paes » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:40 am
Thanks Guru.

Definitely It is very helpful. I understand now that E is correct.
Can you also give some good reason to avoid A and C.

Can we say that in C :

because of providing : is wrong.

I have read that the usage is : because of <noun>
providing is also a gerund i.e. noun.
So : because of <gerund> is a right construction or not.

Similarly what do you think about A.

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by GMATGuruNY » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:10 am
paes wrote:Thanks Guru.

Definitely It is very helpful. I understand now that E is correct.
Can you also give some good reason to avoid A and C.

Can we say that in C :

because of providing : is wrong.

I have read that the usage is : because of <noun>
providing is also a gerund i.e. noun.
So : because of <gerund> is a right construction or not.

Similarly what do you think about A.
A verb is usually better than a noun.

Because it provides (verb) is better than because of its providing (noun) or on account of its providing (noun).

If two answer choices both seem ok, and one uses a verb and the other uses a noun derived from that verb, choose the answer choice with the verb. It's more likely to be correct:

A) He chose to resign. (verb)
B) He chose resignation. (noun)

Each of the sentences above is ok, but A is better because it uses a verb.
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by kamalsinghy » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:27 am
A concept that I know about usage of : X, because of Y usage. If Y is a causal action of X, then the usage would be proper. But I don't think so that there is any causal kind of relationship.

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by paes » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:32 am
kamalsinghy wrote:A concept that I know about usage of : X, because of Y usage. If Y is a causal action of X, then the usage would be proper. But I don't think so that there is any causal kind of relationship.
makes sense. Thanks