SC 1000 #916

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by f2001290 » Fri May 04, 2007 11:37 pm

916.Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.
(A) creating a special nongovernment organization to take
(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes
(C) creating a special nongovernment organization for taking
(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking
(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

Why E and not D?

I am confused when it comes to choosing between "for verb+ing" and "to verb"

Can somebody explain the difference between the usage of the above forms?

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Re: SC 1000 #916

by jayhawk2001 » Sat May 05, 2007 5:11 pm

f2001290 wrote:916.Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.
(A) creating a special nongovernment organization to take
(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes
(C) creating a special nongovernment organization for taking
(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking
(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

Why E and not D?

I am confused when it comes to choosing between "for verb+ing" and "to verb"

Can somebody explain the difference between the usage of the above forms?

For verb-ing is used along with nouns to indicate purpose.

To + infinitive is used along with verbs to indicate purpose.

In the sentence, to maintain parallelism, we have to use "and create ..."
That leaves us with D and E. E clearly uses the verb form to indicate
purpose.

Examples of noun-forms to indicate purpose:

Schools are for educating children not for entertaining them.

Here we cannot use "to educate" along with the noun children.

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by hedonistatbreak » Wed May 23, 2007 7:07 am

Hi jayhawk2001,
Cudnt understand ur point when u said verb is indicating purpose in E. Which verb you are talking about? Is it 'take'? If it is 'take', it doesn't come in D and hence D is also correct as it is using noun to indicate purpose. I hope i am understandable. Plz elaborate, i am confused here.

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by f2001290 » Wed May 23, 2007 7:16 am

Thanks Jay

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by f2001290 » Wed May 23, 2007 7:25 am

Is it applicable only for "For + Verb-ing" pattern?

What about patterns like "Preposition + Verb-ing"

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by Cybermusings » Wed May 23, 2007 10:05 am

916.Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.

(A) creating a special nongovernment organization to take
(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes
(C) creating a special nongovernment organization for taking
(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking
(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

Is it E?

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by luck76 » Thu May 20, 2010 7:56 pm

check question #11, OG 12, correct is E

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by ikaplan » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:39 am

I got stuck between D and E. I found the following explanation about why E might be better than D:

"Gerunds are often used when actions are real, concrete or completed"
"Infinitives are often used when actions are unreal, abstract, or future"

(link: https://web2.uvcs.uvic.ca/elc/studyzone/ ... gerinf.htm )

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by tuanquang269 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:24 am

jayhawk2001 wrote:
f2001290 wrote:916.Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.
(A) creating a special nongovernment organization to take
(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes
(C) creating a special nongovernment organization for taking
(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking
(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

Why E and not D?

I am confused when it comes to choosing between "for verb+ing" and "to verb"

Can somebody explain the difference between the usage of the above forms?
For verb-ing is used along with nouns to indicate purpose.

To + infinitive is used along with verbs to indicate purpose.

In the sentence, to maintain parallelism, we have to use "and create ..."
That leaves us with D and E. E clearly uses the verb form to indicate
purpose.

Examples of noun-forms to indicate purpose:

Schools are for educating children not for entertaining them.

Here we cannot use "to educate" along with the noun children.

I am still not convinced with your response about "for + verb- ing" go along with noun What's about "for taking" + "charge" in this sentence. "charge" here is also a noun?

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by vietmoi999 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:34 am

FOR DOING is used to show the purpose of the previous verb, not the purpose of the subject

evidence privide support for clasifying the term (from og)

the chambers were closed for cleaning (from og)

TO DO is uese to show the prupose of the previous subject

I learn gmat to take mba.

this the best way to deal with this problem.

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by sameerballani » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:29 am

Can someone please explain when to choose below
1) for verb-ing
2) to verb-ing
3) verb-ing(I believe this is the continuous tense form)

Thanks

f2001290 wrote:916.Warning that computers in the United States are not secure, the National Academy of Sciences has urged the nation to revamp computer security procedures, institute new emergency response teams, creating a special nongovernment organization to take charge of computer security planning.
(A) creating a special nongovernment organization to take
(B) creating a special nongovernment organization that takes
(C) creating a special nongovernment organization for taking
(D) and create a special nongovernment organization for taking
(E) and create a special nongovernment organization to take

Why E and not D?

I am confused when it comes to choosing between "for verb+ing" and "to verb"

Can somebody explain the difference between the usage of the above forms?

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by lunarpower » Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:50 am

i received a private message about this thread.

sameerballani wrote:Can someone please explain when to choose below
1) for verb-ing
2) to verb-ing
3) verb-ing(I believe this is the continuous tense form)

see, the way you're asking this question, in the first place, is the issue here.
you're trying to memorize "rules" about how to use these things, without a particular context.

that's rarely ever going to be possible. once you get past the super-basic mechanical foundations of the language (like subject-verb agreement and so forth), EVERYTHING is going to depend on context.

so, if you have some example problems that use these things, those would make good forum posts. but a question like the one here is just too general to answer.

in the specific problem that's in this thread, this is really just an idiom issue.
the current gmat doesn't really test these kinds of idioms anymore, so you should be able to ignore this problem. (also, you should ignore the "1000sc" document in general -- it's filled with horrifyingly bad problems. you're likely to un-learn a lot more than you're likely to learn from that thing.)

if you have other specific problems (preferably from official sources), fire away.

(finally, note that -ING forms are not verbs, so they don't have tenses.)

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