Sentence Correction

Good day
In manhattan SC in page 114 I've came across with the following sentence

Common Verbs that take ONLY the Command Subjunctive:
demand, dictate, insist, mandate, propose, recommend, request, stipulate, suggest

but next in the idioms section page 163
I've found
RIGHT:
The attorneys PROPOSED a new venue.
The attorneys PROPOSED TO MEET for lunch.

Is it a kind of contradiction?
many thanks in advance[/u]

Thanks for your prompt answer
but my question is:
when I read the SC manhattan,each time I met with a verb from the above list including propose, the first thing I used to do is to check the use of THAT+SUBJUNCTIVE MOOD. Any answer that might use indicative tense was just considered wrong.
So my question is: Should I consider propose as a verb that might take the two form? (indicative and subjunctive mood?)
Thanks!!!!!

Amadalia wrote:Good day
In manhattan SC in page 114 I've came across with the following sentence

Common Verbs that take ONLY the Command Subjunctive:
demand, dictate, insist, mandate, propose, recommend, request, stipulate, suggest

One purpose of the subjunctive mood is to express an action that is HYPOTHETICAL: an action that might not actually happen.
When we request an action from an OUTSIDE PARTY, we cannot be certain that the outside party will comply with our request.
Because the requested action might not actually happen, we use the COMMAND SUBJUNCTIVE.
The structure of the command subjunctive is as follows:
SUBJECT + BOSSY WORD + THAT + OUTSIDE PARTY + BARE INFINITIVE.
Bossy words are verbs such as those listed above: propose, dictate, request, etc.
The bare infinitive is the infinitive form of a verb with the to omitted.

Example:
The attorneys proposed that the new contract take effect next year.
In the sentence above:
Subject = the attorneys.
Bossy word = proposed.
Outside party = the new contract.
Bare infinitive = take effect (to take effect with the to omitted).

but next in the idioms section page 163
I've found
RIGHT:
The attorneys PROPOSED a new venue.
The attorneys PROPOSED TO MEET for lunch.

In the first sentence, no action is being proposed, so the command subjunctive is not required.
In the second sentence, there is no outside party -- THE ATTORNEYS THEMSELVES are to meet for lunch -- so the command subjunctive is not required.

Thanks Guru
You nail it as usual!!!!!

GMATGuruNY wrote:
One purpose of the subjunctive mood is to express an action that is HYPOTHETICAL: an action that might not actually happen.
When we request an action from an OUTSIDE PARTY, we cannot be certain that the outside party will comply with our request.
Because the requested action might not actually happen, we use the COMMAND SUBJUNCTIVE.
The structure of the command subjunctive is as follows:
SUBJECT + BOSSY WORD + THAT + OUTSIDE PARTY + BARE INFINITIVE.
Bossy words are verbs such as those listed above: propose, dictate, request, etc.
The bare infinitive is the infinitive form of a verb with the to omitted.

Dear GMATGuru,
In you answer above, you mentioned OUTSIDE PARTY. what would be the structure if the subject himself/herself will will be responsible for the main action?

Thanks for your help

Mo2men wrote:Dear GMATGuru,
In you answer above, you mentioned OUTSIDE PARTY. what would be the structure if the subject himself/herself will will be responsible for the main action?

Thanks for your help

Generally, a subject on the GMAT will not command ITSELF to perform an action, so I would not worry about this issue.