had not no or had not any?

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sandy_online: Junior | Next Rank: 30 Posts; Posts: 17; Joined: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:40 am; Thanked: 2 times

by sandy_online » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:03 pm

By necessary, munitions plants hired many young woman during the war; at least as much as 500,00 and more others who had not any previous experience in factory work of any kind.

A. at least as much as 500,000 and more others who had not any
B. at least as much as more than 500,000 others who had no
C. more than 500,000 had not any
D. more than 500,000 had not no
E. there were at least 500,000 or more others without any

please explain.

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by pradeepkaushal9518 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:50 pm

imo C
atleast as much as not correct A and B out

had not no is not correct hence D is out out of C and E C looks better
what is the OA[/list]

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by aspirant2010 » Sat May 01, 2010 7:15 am

I will go with A because the two sentences are separated by ; and when the two sentences are separated by ; then both the sentences must be capable of standing alone and A option only satisfies the same................wats the OA

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by grockit_andrea » Sun May 02, 2010 4:52 am

sandy_online wrote:By necessary, munitions plants hired many young woman during the war; at least as much as 500,00 and more others who had not any previous experience in factory work of any kind.

A. at least as much as 500,000 and more others who had not any
B. at least as much as more than 500,000 others who had no
C. more than 500,000 had not any
D. more than 500,000 had not no
E. there were at least 500,000 or more others without any

please explain.

Where is this question from? It's full of errors. "By necessary" is incorrect; the idiom is "by necessity." "Many" doesn't agree with the singular "woman," so it should be "women." Choice E is redundant, since you don't need both "at least" and "or more" in the same sentence, choices A and B incorrectly use "much" instead of "many," and I can't really say that either C or D sounds acceptable to me; the double negative in D is incorrect ("not no"), and I don't think "had not any" is right either; it sounds really awkward, and I think the preferred usage is simply "had no."
I googled this and came up with the same question on another site, and they said that the answer is D. I can't see any way for that to be correct. So what's the source here? And what's the OA?

EDITED TO ADD: If I had to choose an answer, I'd say C. But I don't really think any of these answers are correct.

Andrea A.
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by sandy_online » Sun May 02, 2010 5:39 am

grockit_andrea wrote: Where is this question from? It's full of errors. "By necessary" is incorrect; the idiom is "by necessity." "Many" doesn't agree with the singular "woman," so it should be "women." Choice E is redundant, since you don't need both "at least" and "or more" in the same sentence, choices A and B incorrectly use "much" instead of "many," and I can't really say that either C or D sounds acceptable to me; the double negative in D is incorrect ("not no"), and I don't think "had not any" is right either; it sounds really awkward, and I think the preferred usage is simply "had no."
I googled this and came up with the same question on another site, and they said that the answer is D. I can't see any way for that to be correct. So what's the source here? And what's the OA?

EDITED TO ADD: If I had to choose an answer, I'd say C. But I don't really think any of these answers are correct.

thanks for your explanation. I was going through one of the forums, and I got this question from there. I was not convinced with the OA as D. Sometime, I just wonder which question in forum I should follow.

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by mohit11 » Sun May 02, 2010 5:52 am

sandy_online wrote:By necessary, munitions plants hired many young woman during the war; at least as much as 500,00 and more others who had not any previous experience in factory work of any kind.

A. at least as much as 500,000 and more others who had not any
B. at least as much as more than 500,000 others who had no
C. more than 500,000 had not any
D. more than 500,000 had not no
E. there were at least 500,000 or more others without any

please explain.

A,B,E - have redundancy issue.
C is just awful.
D probably has a typo...

I think the correct option should be "more than 500,00 had no"

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by grockit_andrea » Sun May 02, 2010 5:56 am

I'd say that if it's not from the OG, or from a known company-- any of Beat the GMAT's partners are reputable, for instance-- you should be careful. Taking a question of unknown origin from a forum is a little like the blind leading the blind: you might get where you're going, but there are no guarantees, and it could pose some serious risks.

One great thing about the BTG forums is that people often indicate what text or source their question is from; those questions seem more reliable to me. It would be a shame for someone to unconsciously internalize errors like "By necessary," since it's possible that you might see something similar later on in an actual test question, and then you would think that's acceptable because you'd remember seeing it in practice.

Anyway, your instincts were good in doubting this question; it's not a good one.

Andrea A.
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