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by vrn2vw » Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:46 pm
Is m + z > 0?

1) m-3z > 0
2) 4z-m > 0

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OA is C

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:19 pm
Is m+z>0

(1) m - 3z > 0
(2) 4z - m > 0

Target question: Is m + z > 0?

Statement 1: m - 3z > 0
There are several sets of numbers that meet this condition. Here are two:
Case a: m = 4 and z = 1, in which case m + z is greater than 0
Case a: m = 4 and z = -10, in which case m + z is not greater than 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 1 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: 4z - m > 0
There are several sets of numbers that meet this condition. Here are two:
Case a: m = 1 and z = 4, in which case m + z is greater than 0
Case a: m = -10 and z = 1, in which case m + z is not greater than 0
Since we cannot answer the target question with certainty, statement 2 is NOT SUFFICIENT

Statements 1 and 2 combined:
Rearrange statement 1 to get: -3z + m > 0
Statement 2: 4z - m > 0

Multiply both sides of -3z + m > 0 by 5 to get: -15z + 5m > 0
Multiply both sides of 4z - m > 0 by 4 to get: 16z - 4m > 0

Since both inequality signs are facing the same direction, we can ADD the two green inequalities to get: z + m > 0
Since we can answer the target question with certainty, the combined statements are SUFFICIENT

Answer = C

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by GMATinsight » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:42 am
vrn2vw wrote:Is m + z > 0?

1) m-3z > 0
2) 4z-m > 0

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OA is C
Statement 1: m - 3z >0
m =1 and z = -1 ==> m+z = 0
m=2 and z = -1 ==> m+z >0
NOT SUFFICIENT

Statement 2: 4z-m>0
m = -1 and z = 0.1 ==> m+z < 0
m=2 and z = 1 ==> m+z >0
NOT SUFFICIENT

Combining the two statements

m-3z + 4z -m >0
z > 0.... (P)
from 1, m > 3z and from 2, 4z > m
==> 3z < m < 4z... (Q)
from (P) and (Q) m+Z > 0

Answer: Option C
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by Max@Math Revolution » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:52 am
Forget conventional ways of solving math questions. In DS, Variable approach is the easiest and quickest way to find the answer without actually solving the problem. Remember equal number of variables and independent equations ensures a solution.

Is m + z > 0?

1) m-3z > 0
2) 4z-m > 0

There are 2 variables (m,z) and 2 equations are given by the 2 conditions, so there is high chance (C) will be the answer.
Looking at the conditions together,
from m-3z>0, 4z-m>0, and we can get m-3z+4z-m>0, z>0
Condition 1, m>3z>0 and m>0 which answers the question 'yes' and makes the condition sufficient.
The answer therefore becomes (C).

For cases where we need 2 more equations, such as original conditions with "2 variables", or "3 variables and 1 equation", or "4 variables and 2 equations", we have 1 equation each in both 1) and 2). Therefore, there is 70% chance that C is the answer, while E has 25% chance. These two are the majority. In case of common mistake type 3,4, the answer may be from A, B or D but there is only 5% chance. Since C is most likely to be the answer using 1) and 2) separately according to DS definition (It saves us time). Obviously there may be cases where the answer is A, B, D or E.

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by jain2016 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:37 pm
Hi Experts ,

I got stuck in this, please help me out.

From statement 1 : we get m>3z

From statement 2 : we get 4z>m

So we combine both the statement we get 3z<m<4z


Now what will be the next step?

Please advise

Thanks in advance.

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by [email protected] » Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:46 pm
Hi jain2016,

Once you determine that 3Z < M < 4Z, you have to go one more step to decipher what you this means about M...

The ONLY way for this series of inequalities to exist is if Z is POSITIVE (Z cannot be 0 and it cannot be negative). Since Z is positive, and 3Z < M, then M is ALSO positive. Thus, the answer to the question (Is M+ Z > 0?) is ALWAYS YES. Combined, Sufficient.

Final Answer: C

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by Brent@GMATPrepNow » Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:42 am
jain2016 wrote:
So we combine both the statement we get 3z<m<4z

Now what will be the next step?
From 3z < m < 4z, we can conclude that 3z < 4z
Subtract 3z from both sides to get 0 < z
So, z is POSITIVE

If z is positive, then 3z is POSITIVE
Since 3z < m, we can conclude that m is POSITIVE

If z and m are both POSITIVE, then m + z is POSITIVE
i.e., m + z > 0

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by ararjun » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:39 pm
vrn2vw wrote:Is m + z > 0?

1) m-3z > 0
2) 4z-m > 0
Statement (1)
m-3z > 0
m > 3z
No info on the signs of m or z
Insufficient

Statement (2)
4z-m > 0
4z > m
No info on the signs of m or z
Insufficient

Adding statements (1) + (2)
(m-3z) + (4z-m) > 0 [Can add inequalities when their signs are in the same direction]
z > 0

if z > 0, then m > 0 [from statement (1)]
m + z > 0
Sufficient

Answer C

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by Matt@VeritasPrep » Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:53 pm
jain2016 wrote:Hi Experts ,

I got stuck in this, please help me out.

From statement 1 : we get m>3z

From statement 2 : we get 4z>m

So we combine both the statement we get 3z<m<4z


Now what will be the next step?

Please advise

Thanks in advance.

SJ
You've got it!

4z > 3z implies that z is positive.

m > 3z implies that m is also positive, since m > 3z > z > 0.

So m and z are BOTH positive, meaning that m + z is also positive.