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by Cinji18 » Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:30 pm
I got OG SC #38 correct, but in the explanations for some of the other answer choices, it says that advocate is idiomically incorrectly connected with for. So what should advocate be connected with? Against? Of? etc.

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by bpgen » Sun Mar 07, 2010 1:16 am
Could you put actual question pls...I could not see at OG-12.. :cry:
"Ambition is the path to success. Persistence is the vehicle you arrive in."

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by Cinji18 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:17 pm
In 1850, Lucretia Mott published her Discourse on Women, arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights and for changes in the married women's property laws.

A. arguing in a treatise for women to have equal political and legal rights
B. arguing in a treatise for equal political and legal rights for women
C. a treatise that advocates women's equal political and legal rights
D. a treatise advocating women's equal political and legal rights
E. a treatise that argued for equal political and legal rights for women

The answer is E, which I got correct for parallelism reason, but it's the other part of the explanation I don't understand. OG states:

"The verb arguing must be followed by a prepositional phrase beginning with for, but the verb advocating simply takes a direct object."

It goes on to explain why C is incorrect:

"The verb advocates does not work idiomatically with the prepositional phrase for change."

But isn't it correct to say, "I advocate for change?"

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by bpgen » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:40 pm
OG might be right with their explanation, but I reached answer E just simply keeping tense in parallel .. to make all into simple past tense. i.e published ==>argued
"Ambition is the path to success. Persistence is the vehicle you arrive in."

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by Cinji18 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:44 pm
Thanks. That was my conclusion, too. I just thought I'd ask in case I encounter an idiom involving advocate.

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by harshavardhanc » Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:24 am
Cinji18 wrote:Thanks. That was my conclusion, too. I just thought I'd ask in case I encounter an idiom involving advocate.
OG is on the same page as you are ... :)


Consider : Y and Z . we all know that Y and Z should be ||.

You got the correct answer because you tried to make Y and Z parallel. argued for Y and for Z.

Now consider this : X advocates Y and Z .

The verb has changed from argued to advocates .

What OG wants to say while eliminating C is that advocates as a verb takes a direct object (a noun) immediately after it.

advocates noun

where as if you use option C, it will make the sentence as :

advocates women's equal political and legal rights. (correct . a clause behaving like a noun follows advocates )

AND

advocates for changes in ....... (which is not idiomatically correct) . it will not be parallel as well.

hope this clears your doubt ! :)
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by Ammseeru » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:04 am
Hi,

I also read on Manhattan/GMATClub/BTG that "advocates" for is not correct idiom. Today i saw below news headline in CNN website . Is below sentence wrong ?

Jon Stewart advocates for health program for 9/11 first responders.

Thanks,
Amm