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100 points for $49 worth of Veritas practice GMATs FREE VERITAS PRACTICE GMAT EXAMS Earn 10 Points Per Post Earn 10 Points Per Thanks Earn 10 Points Per Upvote ## Ellipsis question ##### This topic has 3 expert replies and 5 member replies ## Ellipsis question Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910. (A) double the apples that it has (B) twice as many apples as it did (C) as much as twice the apples it has (D) two times as many apples as there were (E) a doubling of the apples that it did The OA is B I still have one question about it: (B) twice as many apples as it did [produce] (ellipsis) but this form of "produce" is nowhere in the sentence, Many thanks in advance ### GMAT/MBA Expert GMAT Instructor Joined 25 May 2010 Posted: 15344 messages Followed by: 1864 members Upvotes: 13060 GMAT Score: 790 The same amount of acreage PRODUCES twice as many apples as it DID in 1910. The simple tense forms of to do are does, do and did. One purpose of does, do and did is to STAND IN for the simple tense forms of an ANTECEDENT VERB. The antecedent verb can be in virtually any tense. Here, did serves to stand in for the simple past tense form of the antecedent verb produces. In other words: did = produced. Conveyed meaning: The same amount of acreage PRODUCES twice as many apples as it PRODUCED in 1910. _________________ Mitch Hunt Private Tutor for the GMAT and GRE GMATGuruNY@gmail.com If you find one of my posts helpful, please take a moment to click on the "UPVOTE" icon. Available for tutoring in NYC and long-distance. For more information, please email me at GMATGuruNY@gmail.com. Student Review #1 Student Review #2 Student Review #3 Free GMAT Practice Test How can you improve your test score if you don't know your baseline score? Take a free online practice exam. Get started on achieving your dream score today! Sign up now. Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts Joined 20 Jan 2014 Posted: 76 messages Upvotes: 3 Thanks Guru for your prompt reply, but I'm still confused regarding that particular point in the Manhattan SC book page 249 we have: Quote: The first instance of the verb should usually match the helping verb in tense. If you change tenses, repeat the whole verb in the new tense. Wrong: I have never seen an aardvark, but last year my father did. Right: I have never seen an aardvark, but last year my father saw one. So according to this rule the correct form of the sentence et the one you wrote earlier The same amount of acreage PRODUCES twice as many apples as it PRODUCED in 1910. the book also stated: Quote: In the rare cases in which the tenses do not need to match, the exact verb form missing after the helping verb should be present elsewhere in the sentence. Wrong: Our cars were designed to inspire envy, and they ARE. Right: Our cars were designed to inspire envy, and they do Many thanks in advance[/u] ### GMAT/MBA Expert GMAT Instructor Joined 25 May 2010 Posted: 15344 messages Followed by: 1864 members Upvotes: 13060 GMAT Score: 790 Amadalia wrote: So according to this rule the correct form of the sentence et the one you wrote earlier The same amount of acreage PRODUCES twice as many apples as it PRODUCED in 1910. Typically, the GMAT uses does/do/did in the context of a COMPARISON. In most cases, there is no ellipsis: the purpose of does/do/did is to serve not as a helping verb but as a SUBSTITUTE for an antecedent verb. The antecedent verb and does/do/did can be in different forms. Consider the following OA to an SC from GMAT Prep: Since 1990 the global economy HAS GROWN more than it DID during the 10000 years from the beginning of agriculture to 1950. Here, DID serves as a substitute for the simple past tense form of HAS GROWN. Conveyed meaning: Since 1990 the global economy HAS GROWN more than it GREW during the 10000 years from the beginning of agriculture to 1950. Notice that did and its antecedent verb -- has grown -- are in different forms. Implication: On the GMAT, does/do/did and its antecedent verb can be in different forms. Quote: Wrong: Our cars were designed to inspire envy, and they ARE. Implied meaning: Our cars were designed to inspire envy, and they are [inspiring envy]. Here, the participle in brackets -- inspiring -- has been omitted. A PARTICIPLE may be omitted only if it appears in the same form earlier in the sentence. In the sentence above, inspiring does not appear in the first clause; hence, it cannot be omitted from the second clause. Result: The omission of inspiring constitutes a clear error. _________________ Mitch Hunt Private Tutor for the GMAT and GRE GMATGuruNY@gmail.com If you find one of my posts helpful, please take a moment to click on the "UPVOTE" icon. Available for tutoring in NYC and long-distance. For more information, please email me at GMATGuruNY@gmail.com. Student Review #1 Student Review #2 Student Review #3 Free GMAT Practice Test How can you improve your test score if you don't know your baseline score? Take a free online practice exam. Get started on achieving your dream score today! Sign up now. Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts Joined 20 Jan 2014 Posted: 76 messages Upvotes: 3 Thanks a million Guru !!!! you nail it Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts Joined 20 Jan 2014 Posted: 76 messages Upvotes: 3 by the way,I've just been told by some manhattan staff that this part of the book is wrong and will be removed in the next edition Many thanks GURU Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts Joined 24 Jun 2012 Posted: 206 messages Followed by: 3 members Upvotes: 5 GMATGuruNY wrote: Amadalia wrote: So according to this rule the correct form of the sentence et the one you wrote earlier The same amount of acreage PRODUCES twice as many apples as it PRODUCED in 1910. Typically, the GMAT uses does/do/did in the context of a COMPARISON. In most cases, there is no ellipsis: the purpose of does/do/did is to serve not as a helping verb but as a SUBSTITUTE for an antecedent verb. The antecedent verb and does/do/did can be in different forms. Consider the following OA to an SC from GMAT Prep: Since 1990 the global economy HAS GROWN more than it DID during the 10000 years from the beginning of agriculture to 1950. Here, DID serves as a substitute for the simple past tense form of HAS GROWN. Conveyed meaning: Since 1990 the global economy HAS GROWN more than it GREW during the 10000 years from the beginning of agriculture to 1950. Notice that did and its antecedent verb -- has grown -- are in different forms. Implication: On the GMAT, does/do/did and its antecedent verb can be in different forms. Quote: Wrong: Our cars were designed to inspire envy, and they ARE. Implied meaning: Our cars were designed to inspire envy, and they are [inspiring envy]. Here, the participle in brackets -- inspiring -- has been omitted. A PARTICIPLE may be omitted only if it appears in the same form earlier in the sentence. In the sentence above, inspiring does not appear in the first clause; hence, it cannot be omitted from the second clause. Result: The omission of inspiring constitutes a clear error. Hi GMATguru, Thanks for your brilliant post. It clarifies a lot of my doubts. I wanted to request if you can share more information from your arsenal on verbs such as has, have, had etc. I am primarily interested in what constructions can occur when they are used as helping verbs and when they are used as main verbs. Also how does the construction and structure differs in both usages? ### Top Member Legendary Member Joined 25 Sep 2015 Posted: 684 messages Followed by: 5 members Upvotes: 14 Amadalia wrote: Today, because of improvements in agricultural technology, the same amount of acreage produces double the apples that it has in 1910. (A) double the apples that it has (B) twice as many apples as it did (C) as much as twice the apples it has (D) two times as many apples as there were (E) a doubling of the apples that it did The OA is B I still have one question about it: (B) twice as many apples as it did [produce] (ellipsis) but this form of "produce" is nowhere in the sentence, Many thanks in advance Dear GMATGuru, The amount of acreage must be compared to other amount. However OA does not have any Value to compare amounts? Can you please clarify? Thanks ### GMAT/MBA Expert GMAT Instructor Joined 25 May 2010 Posted: 15344 messages Followed by: 1864 members Upvotes: 13060 GMAT Score: 790 Mo2men wrote: Dear GMATGuru, The amount of acreage must be compared to other amount. However OA does not have any Value to compare amounts? Can you please clarify? Thanks OA: Today, the same amount of acreage produces twice as many apples as it did in 1910. The phrase in blue conveys that the amount of acreage producing apples today is the SAME as the amount that produced apples in 1910. For example: If 100 acres produced apples in 1910, then 100 acres are producing apples today. _________________ Mitch Hunt Private Tutor for the GMAT and GRE GMATGuruNY@gmail.com If you find one of my posts helpful, please take a moment to click on the "UPVOTE" icon. Available for tutoring in NYC and long-distance. For more information, please email me at GMATGuruNY@gmail.com. Student Review #1 Student Review #2 Student Review #3 Free GMAT Practice Test How can you improve your test score if you don't know your baseline score? Take a free online practice exam. Get started on achieving your dream score today! Sign up now. • FREE GMAT Exam Know how you'd score today for$0

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