When drive-ins were at the height of their popularity in the late 1950's, some 4,000 existed in the United States, but today there are less than one-quarter that many.
A. there are less than one-quarter that many
B. there are fewer than one-quarter as many
C. there are fewer than one-quarter of that amount
D. the number is less than one-quarter the amount
E. it is less than one-quarter of that amount
Let's discuss this sentence again.
I know some knows the use of Amount. Why is "as many" correct. Can some experts explain in details?
Thanks.
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imo B
fewer is better for comparision
fewer is better for comparision
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The answer is B.gmat_perfect wrote:Experts, please come and solve this question.
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A) We are comparing number of drive-ins, which is countable noun, so we have to use fewer. Less is used for uncountable nouns. So A is ruled out.
B) Just like "twice as many", "one-quarter as many" is idiomatic. B correctly uses fewer.
C) Plain awkward.
D & E) It is using less. So wrong.
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"As many" is used for numbers than can be counted (as much for uncountable nouns)
Fewer should be used to describe countable nouns (lesser for uncountable nouns)
Number should be used when quantities can be counted (amount when quantities cannot be counted)
Many, amount and Fewer are used in case of countable items.
C,D,E out because of usage of "amount"
A out because of usage of less.
B puts it all together. You want fries with that?
Fewer should be used to describe countable nouns (lesser for uncountable nouns)
Number should be used when quantities can be counted (amount when quantities cannot be counted)
Many, amount and Fewer are used in case of countable items.
C,D,E out because of usage of "amount"
A out because of usage of less.
B puts it all together. You want fries with that?
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Can we have a source that confirms " one-quarter as many" as correct idiom ?gmat_perfect wrote:When drive-ins were at the height of their popularity in the late 1950's, some 4,000 existed in the United States, but today there are less than one-quarter that many.
A. there are less than one-quarter that many
B. there are fewer than one-quarter as many
C. there are fewer than one-quarter of that amount
D. the number is less than one-quarter the amount
E. it is less than one-quarter of that amount
Let's discuss this sentence again.
I know some knows the use of Amount. Why is "as many" correct. Can some experts explain in details?
Thanks.
Best,
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Hardik correct idiom is " twice as many as"hardik.jadeja wrote:The answer is B.gmat_perfect wrote:Experts, please come and solve this question.
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A) We are comparing number of drive-ins, which is countable noun, so we have to use fewer. Less is used for uncountable nouns. So A is ruled out.
B) Just like "twice as many", "one-quarter as many" is idiomatic. B correctly uses fewer.
C) Plain awkward.
D & E) It is using less. So wrong.
Also "some 4000" is countable ?
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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Let me put a take-away collected from Ron's post:nikhilkatira wrote: Hardik correct idiom is " twice as many as"
Also "some 4000" is countable ?
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Idioms : "Twice as many.." , " One-quarter as many..", " Fewer than one-quarter as many.."
"As many " need not be followed by "as" if you have already mentioned the data elsewhere in the sentence.
Ex- There were once 20 shirts on this shelf, but,now,barely half as many are left. - Data "20 shirts" is present in the first half of the sentence,so its not mentioned again.
Ex - There are barely half as many shirts on this shelf as there were last week. - here second " as " is needed to complete the comparison point.
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I have solved this question in the following way:gmat_perfect wrote:When drive-ins were at the height of their popularity in the late 1950's, some 4,000 existed in the United States, but today there are less than one-quarter that many.
A. there are less than one-quarter that many
B. there are fewer than one-quarter as many
C. there are fewer than one-quarter of that amount
D. the number is less than one-quarter the amount
E. it is less than one-quarter of that amount
Let's discuss this sentence again.
I know some knows the use of Amount. Why is "as many" correct. Can some experts explain in details?
Thanks.
1. "LESS" is used for uncountable nouns, not for countable nouns. Example: Less water, less oil.
=> This rule eliminates A.
2. "AMOUNT" is used for uncountable nouns. Example: The amount of water in this pond is enough.
=> This rule eliminates C, D, and E.
The remaining option is B, which is the answer.
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Here you go buddy.nikhilkatira wrote: Hardik correct idiom is " twice as many as"
Also "some 4000" is countable ?
Please correct me if I am wrong.
Ron's explanation: https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/pos ... tml#p24247