Divisible by 15 -- Please help

This topic has expert replies
Junior | Next Rank: 30 Posts
Posts: 22
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:19 pm

Divisible by 15 -- Please help

by rjanardhanan » Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:58 am
Is X divisible by 15?

1. When X is divided by 10, the result is an integer.
2. X^2 is a multiple of 30.

User avatar
MBA Admissions Consultant
Posts: 2279
Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:51 am
Location: New York
Thanked: 660 times
Followed by:266 members
GMAT Score:770

by Jim@StratusPrep » Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:17 am
Six ally, does x have a factor of 5 and 3?

1). Has a factor of 2 and 5. Insufficient

2). Has a factor of 2,3, and 5. (if x^2 has these factors so does x). Sufficient

B
GMAT Answers provides a world class adaptive learning platform.
-- Push button course navigation to simplify planning
-- Daily assignments to fit your exam timeline
-- Organized review that is tailored based on your abiility
-- 1,000s of unique GMAT questions
-- 100s of handwritten 'digital flip books' for OG questions
-- 100% Free Trial and less than $20 per month after.
-- Free GMAT Quantitative Review

Image

Legendary Member
Posts: 627
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 9:12 am
Thanked: 4 times
Followed by:1 members

by mankey » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:17 am
IMO: C. Please check.

Regards.

Newbie | Next Rank: 10 Posts
Posts: 2
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:48 am

by amanne » Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:52 pm
Inorder for X to be divisible by 15, X must have 5 and 3 as factors.

1) X has only 2 and 5 as factors. Insufficient

2) X^2 has only 2,3 and 5 as factors. But X^2 should have at least 2 three's and 2 five's for X to be divisible by 15. Insufficient

Both statements combined are still insufficient.

Answer E.

Can anyone confirm this explanation.

User avatar
Legendary Member
Posts: 934
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:16 am
Location: AAMCHI MUMBAI LOCAL
Thanked: 63 times
Followed by:14 members

by [email protected] » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:23 pm
Is X divisible by 15?

1. When X is divided by 10, the result is an integer.
2. X^2 is a multiple of 30.


Exactly the answer is turning out to be C. Not B.

There are many numbers whose square must be the multiple of 30 but remember their squares are the multiple of 30 X itself...

When both the statements are combined, the answer turns out to be good...
IT IS TIME TO BEAT THE GMAT

LEARNING, APPLICATION AND TIMING IS THE FACT OF GMAT AND LIFE AS WELL... KEEP PLAYING!!!

Whenever you feel that my post really helped you to learn something new, please press on the 'THANK' button.

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 3650
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:27 am
Location: India
Thanked: 267 times
Followed by:80 members
GMAT Score:760

by sanju09 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:27 am
rjanardhanan wrote:Is X divisible by 15?

1. When X is divided by 10, the result is an integer.
2. X^2 is a multiple of 30.
I. This means that X is divisible by 10, hence not necessarily divisible by 15. Insufficient

II. Once X^2 is a multiple of 30, X is a multiple of 30, and hence a multiple of 15 as well. Sufficient

[spoiler]Take B[/spoiler]
The mind is everything. What you think you become. -Lord Buddha



Sanjeev K Saxena
Quantitative Instructor
The Princeton Review - Manya Abroad
Lucknow-226001

www.manyagroup.com

User avatar
Legendary Member
Posts: 504
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:40 pm
Thanked: 114 times
Followed by:11 members

by knight247 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:31 am
Hey Amit,
The answer IS B not C.

Is x divisible by 15?
(1)When x is divided by 10, the result is an integer. Ok, so x could be 20,30,40,50,50 ETC all of which meet the requirement of giving an integer result when divided by 10. But x could be 30 which is divisible 15 or it could be 20 which isn't divisible by 15. Conflicting answers so INSUFFICIENT.
(2)x²= some multiple of 30
x²=2*3*5....
Prime factors of perfect squares will obviously come in pairs. So we could rewrite x² as
x²=2²*3²*5²..... And taking square root on both sides
x=2*3*5... Which is divisible by 15. SUFFICIENT.

Hence B

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 3650
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:27 am
Location: India
Thanked: 267 times
Followed by:80 members
GMAT Score:760

by sanju09 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:32 am
[email protected] wrote:Is X divisible by 15?

1. When X is divided by 10, the result is an integer.
2. X^2 is a multiple of 30.


Exactly the answer is turning out to be C. Not B.

There are many numbers whose square must be the multiple of 30 but remember their squares are the multiple of 30 X itself...

When both the statements are combined, the answer turns out to be good...
Can you please give me a square integer divisible by 30?
The mind is everything. What you think you become. -Lord Buddha



Sanjeev K Saxena
Quantitative Instructor
The Princeton Review - Manya Abroad
Lucknow-226001

www.manyagroup.com

User avatar
Legendary Member
Posts: 934
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:16 am
Location: AAMCHI MUMBAI LOCAL
Thanked: 63 times
Followed by:14 members

by [email protected] » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:20 am
Just got stuck a bit here...

Square integer of a multiple of 30 is 900...

And knight247

x^2 = 30, how do u know that it has to be a perfect square... please help me understand this...
IT IS TIME TO BEAT THE GMAT

LEARNING, APPLICATION AND TIMING IS THE FACT OF GMAT AND LIFE AS WELL... KEEP PLAYING!!!

Whenever you feel that my post really helped you to learn something new, please press on the 'THANK' button.

User avatar
Legendary Member
Posts: 934
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:16 am
Location: AAMCHI MUMBAI LOCAL
Thanked: 63 times
Followed by:14 members

by [email protected] » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:24 am
X^2 is a multiple of 30.


this can be: x^2 = 30 X 1 = 30
x^2 = 30 X 2 = 60
etc.......


and also x^2 = 30 X 30 this goes , hence insufficient...
IT IS TIME TO BEAT THE GMAT

LEARNING, APPLICATION AND TIMING IS THE FACT OF GMAT AND LIFE AS WELL... KEEP PLAYING!!!

Whenever you feel that my post really helped you to learn something new, please press on the 'THANK' button.

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 3650
Joined: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:27 am
Location: India
Thanked: 267 times
Followed by:80 members
GMAT Score:760

by sanju09 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:59 am
[email protected] wrote:X^2 is a multiple of 30.


this can be: x^2 = 30 X 1 = 30
x^2 = 30 X 2 = 60
etc.......


and also x^2 = 30 X 30 this goes , hence insufficient...
If you take X^2 = 30, then X would no more be an integer, and this would contradict the stem which reads the term 'divisible'. Remember, whenever GMAT uses the terms like divisible, a factor of, or a multiple of, they customarily mean integers, preferably non-negative ones.
The mind is everything. What you think you become. -Lord Buddha



Sanjeev K Saxena
Quantitative Instructor
The Princeton Review - Manya Abroad
Lucknow-226001

www.manyagroup.com

User avatar
Legendary Member
Posts: 934
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:16 am
Location: AAMCHI MUMBAI LOCAL
Thanked: 63 times
Followed by:14 members

by [email protected] » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:18 am
Ok sanju09! thank you for your support...

I got my mistake...
IT IS TIME TO BEAT THE GMAT

LEARNING, APPLICATION AND TIMING IS THE FACT OF GMAT AND LIFE AS WELL... KEEP PLAYING!!!

Whenever you feel that my post really helped you to learn something new, please press on the 'THANK' button.

Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 268
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:10 am
Thanked: 13 times

by shekhar.kataria » Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:45 am
Hi Sanju
II. Once X^2 is a multiple of 30, X is a multiple of 30, and hence a multiple of 15 as well. Sufficient
How can you prove the above quoted. Just a case which goes opposite to what you said.

6^2 is a multiple of 4, but 6 is not a multiple of 4.
Restlessness and discontent are the first necessities of progress.--Thomas A. Edison

If you find this post helpful, let me know by clicking thanks above :-)

User avatar
MBA Admissions Consultant
Posts: 2279
Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:51 am
Location: New York
Thanked: 660 times
Followed by:266 members
GMAT Score:770

by Jim@StratusPrep » Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:38 am
shekhar.kataria wrote:Hi Sanju
II. Once X^2 is a multiple of 30, X is a multiple of 30, and hence a multiple of 15 as well. Sufficient
How can you prove the above quoted. Just a case which goes opposite to what you said.

6^2 is a multiple of 4, but 6 is not a multiple of 4.
Please see my original post. This has to do with prime factors. If a number is squared, it has "pairs" for each of the prime factors (see below) - 2 and 3 in the case of 6. To be a multiple of 4 there would have to be 4 factors of 2 in the x^2.

2^2 = 2^2
3^2 = 3^3
4^2 = 2^2 * 2^2
5^2 = 5^2
6^2 = 2^2 * 3^2
7^2 = 7^2
8^2 = 2^2 * 2^2 * 2^2
9^2 = 3^2 * 3^2

Basically, all squared numbers have an even number of prime factors. So if x^2 is a multiple of 30, then x^2 has pairs of prime factors for 2,3 and 5. Thus , so does X.

Hope this clarifies things.
GMAT Answers provides a world class adaptive learning platform.
-- Push button course navigation to simplify planning
-- Daily assignments to fit your exam timeline
-- Organized review that is tailored based on your abiility
-- 1,000s of unique GMAT questions
-- 100s of handwritten 'digital flip books' for OG questions
-- 100% Free Trial and less than $20 per month after.
-- Free GMAT Quantitative Review

Image

Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 382
Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:47 pm
Thanked: 15 times

by ArunangsuSahu » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:10 am
X^2=30*K

K=1
x^2=30
x=30^1/2 or -30^1/2

Any thought about this?